CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

[FORBIN]

Yes, I believe 002 would be nuclear powered ... I know most dont agree with me .. and I am fine with that

Possible... the 4th but nothing sure and you need to beg infos hehe

 

[Intrepid]

Nuclear powered or not is a question of faith. We could also vote on it democratically. This does not solve the riddle.

What is the probable variant?

I choose conventionally driven. This fits better to everything I have seen so far ... at the moment.

 

[Blitzo]

They often have no profound knowledge, but access to insider knowledge. Their utterances must therefore be interpreted and brought into the appropriate context.

No, i believe some are insiders themselves of some sort and not necessarily only people who know what insiders say.

They are one but not the only source.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Sure, big shrimps and credible rumours are technically only one category of source, but for the purposes of what we are discussing they are undeniably the most important category to give us knowledge of some if not many upcoming projects.

 

[SinoSoldier]

IN by 2025:
- 1 x Vishaal class CVN (nuclear-powered, EMALS) - 55 aircraft complement
- 1 x Vikrant class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 30 aircraft complement
- 1 x Vikramaditya class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 36 aircraft complement
- Air wing of Tejas, MiG-29Ks, & possibly Rafales
- Helicopter complement of Ka-28, Ka-31, Sea King, & Dhruv

PLAN by 2025:
- 1 x Type 002 class CV (conventional, CATOBAR) - 80 aircraft complement
- 1 x Type 001A class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 36 aircraft complement
- 1 x Type 001 class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 36 aircraft complement
- Air wing of J-15, J-15A, & possibly FC-31 (or J-20)
- Helicopter complement of Ka-28, Ka-31, Z-9, Z-18, Z-20

The IN would have a small but noticeable lead in the next decade in terms of naval air projection. It is advisable for the Chinese to invest in newer aircraft to offset the gap or to curb their behavior in the IOR.

 

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IN by 2025:
- 1 x Vishaal class CVN (nuclear-powered, EMALS) - 55 aircraft complement
- 1 x Vikrant class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 30 aircraft complement
- 1 x Vikramaditya class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 36 aircraft complement
- Air wing of Tejas, MiG-29Ks, & possibly Rafales
- Helicopter complement of Ka-28, Ka-31, Sea King, & Dhruv

PLAN by 2025:
- 1 x Type 002 class CV (conventional, CATOBAR) - 80 aircraft complement
- 1 x Type 001A class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 36 aircraft complement
- 1 x Type 001 class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 36 aircraft complement
- Air wing of J-15, J-15A, & possibly FC-31 (or J-20)
- Helicopter complement of Ka-28, Ka-31, Z-9, Z-18, Z-20

The IN would have a small but noticeable lead in the next decade in terms of naval air projection. It is advisable for the Chinese to invest in newer aircraft to offset the gap or to curb their behavior in the IOR.

India having nuclear powered and EMALS carrier before China even without there own research program? Interesting.

 

[SinoSoldier]

India having nuclear powered and EMALS carrier before China even without there own research program? Interesting.

Why is that surprising? India has been making enormous strides in nuclear reactor research, such as in thorium-fueled reactors. To stick with the notion that India somehow cannot outpace China is ridiculous.

 

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Why is that surprising? India has been making enormous strides in nuclear reactor research, such as in thorium-fueled reactors. To stick with the notion that India somehow cannot outpace China is ridiculous.

But EMALS is another thing. I didn't know India is ahead of China in EMAL R&D.

 

[SinoSoldier]

But EMALS is another thing. I didn't know India is ahead of China in EMAL R&D.

I wouldn't imagine that EMALS would be too major of an issue for India once they have the power supply issue duly fixed. There are also reports that IN may be looking towards the US for EMALS tech.

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[Richard Santos]

Why is that surprising? India has been making enormous strides in nuclear reactor research, such as in thorium-fueled reactors. To stick with the notion that India somehow cannot outpace China is ridiculous.

It is not ridiculous. It is actually the more conservative assumption. The alternative actually requires bigger leaps of faith.

 

[Blitzo]

IN by 2025:
- 1 x Vishaal class CVN (nuclear-powered, EMALS) - 55 aircraft complement
- 1 x Vikrant class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 30 aircraft complement
- 1 x Vikramaditya class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 36 aircraft complement
- Air wing of Tejas, MiG-29Ks, & possibly Rafales
- Helicopter complement of Ka-28, Ka-31, Sea King, & Dhruv

PLAN by 2025:
- 1 x Type 002 class CV (conventional, CATOBAR) - 80 aircraft complement
- 1 x Type 001A class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 36 aircraft complement
- 1 x Type 001 class CV (conventional, STOBAR) - 36 aircraft complement
- Air wing of J-15, J-15A, & possibly FC-31 (or J-20)
- Helicopter complement of Ka-28, Ka-31, Z-9, Z-18, Z-20

The IN would have a small but noticeable lead in the next decade in terms of naval air projection. It is advisable for the Chinese to invest in newer aircraft to offset the gap or to curb their behavior in the IOR.

Actually, INS Vishal will probably only enter service in the early 2030s.

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If they really want INS Vishal to enter service by 2025 then tbh they should have begun module fabrication by now, which of course would require having finalized a design with subsystems settled -- but at this point they do not seem to have even settled on a clear set of requirements let alone a design.


And INS Vikrant will probably only enter service in the early 2020s.


So IN by 2030s will probably fit what you described quite accurately in your post for them for 2025 -- but what will the Chinese Navy look like by the 2030s?