CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

antiterror13

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Why you 100% (definitely) insist Type 002 AC not a Nuclear one?
Until this day, there is no official statement regarding power of Type 002 AC.
IMO, The Probability of Type 002 AC will use Nuclear is 50%, same with Conventional powered probability (50%).

I tend to believe the chance to be nuclear powered for 002 is 60%. China has mastered the nuclear technology and already start exporting the technology. I don't see why 002 is not nuclear powered
 

Iron Man

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Why you 100% (definitely) insist Type 002 AC not a Nuclear one?

Until this day, there is no official statement regarding power of Type 002 AC.

IMO, The Probability of Type 002 AC will use Nuclear is 50%, same with Conventional powered probability (50%).
I tend to believe the chance to be nuclear powered for 002 is 60%. China has mastered the nuclear technology and already start exporting the technology. I don't see why 002 is not nuclear powered
We haven't heard anything about carrier #3 being nuclear-powered. I think we would have by now given that it's almost certainly already under construction. In fact I believe we have already had comments made by big shrimp to the effect of carrier #3 being conventionally-powered and not nuclear-powered. The only realistic question at this point is whether carrier #4 or #5 will be the first nuclear-powered carrier. Obviously nobody knows the answer to this question; we can all only just guess right now.
 

Blitzo

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Why you 100% (definitely) insist Type 002 AC not a Nuclear one?

Until this day, there is no official statement regarding power of Type 002 AC.

IMO, The Probability of Type 002 AC will use Nuclear is 50%, same with Conventional powered probability (50%).

The rumours that we've had over the last few years from big shrimps are 100% adamant and consistent that 002 will not be nuclear.

PLA watching is based off rumours. In the same way that we know various characteristics about 055 and that is real, that 075 is real, that 054B is real, we also know that 002 is real, and also characteristics about 002 including that it won't be nuclear.
 

Blitzo

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I tend to believe the chance to be nuclear powered for 002 is 60%. China has mastered the nuclear technology and already start exporting the technology. I don't see why 002 is not nuclear powered

That's not how PLA watching works.

We rely on credible rumours and leaks to make informed estimations and form conclusions. And for the last few years, all the characteristics of 002 have been consistent that it will be a conventionally powered CATOBAR carrier that displaces about 80,000 tons or slightly less.


Insisting that 002 might be nuclear powered is fundamentally breaching the process through which PLA watching occurs because it ignores the consistent revelation of new information through big shrimps and leaks and even occasional state media which have referenced the 002 carrier directly or indirectly, all of which indicate that it will be a conventionally powered carrier and not a nuclear one.
 

MrCrazyBoyRavi

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Who are these big shrimps ? are they high ranking military officials or general people who do research and climb walls to take latest pictures of military gears ?
 

Blitzo

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Who are these big shrimps ? are they high ranking military officials or general people who do research and climb walls to take latest pictures of military gears ?

People, who live with insiders and hear something.

Close but not necessarily. Many are considered insiders who have had or have some ties with either the industry or the military directly at some level, and some also happen to be wall climbers who take photos as well.

But more importantly, the respect given to them is dependent upon their track record. If they have a track record of accurate predictions then they will be taken very seriously -- it's not like anyone who claims to be an insider is automatically taken seriously of course.
 

snake65

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uh, no. 300mw is equal to 40,000 hps. 190 MW is equal to about 26,000 hps. Kirov's 40,000 hp KN-3 reactor were developed from submarine reactors, and are not clean slate surface ship reactor designs. Hence the output range.

The oil fired steam boilers are not just "backups" for the nuclear reactors in the Kirov. The two nuclear reactors in the Kirov can manage only 80,000 hps, enough to drive the ship at about 25 knots. The oil fired boilers have to be brought online to supply the additional steam to the turbines to,achieve the maximum designed speed of 32 knots.
Uh, yes. Kirov's two reactors power two steam turbines of 70000 hp each. And 971 sub reactor power's 43000 hp steam turbine. But of course, you know better than Russians.
Uh, yes, they are backups. Two nuclear reactors on Kirov manage 140000 shp. But of course, you know better than the guys who designed and operated them. CONAS, my ass.
 

Intrepid

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Close but not necessarily. Many are considered insiders who have had or have some ties with either the industry or the military directly at some level, and some also happen to be wall climbers who take photos as well.
They often have no profound knowledge, but access to insider knowledge. Their utterances must therefore be interpreted and brought into the appropriate context.



But more importantly, the respect given to them is dependent upon their track record. If they have a track record of accurate predictions then they will be taken very seriously -- it's not like anyone who claims to be an insider is automatically taken seriously of course.
They are one but not the only source.
 
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