CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

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Tiberium

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I don't think China would do some half-assed launch just to celebrate some specific date, unlike indians.
If it is launched, which means it is done deal and should be launched. For example the first 075 and first 055, they were all thoroughly tested and then commissioned, after that were put to use immediately. It is the way of China.
 
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Tiberium said:
I don't think China would do some half-assed launch just to celebrate some specific date, unlike indians.
If it is launched, which means it is done deal and should be launched. For example the first 075 and first 055, they were all thoroughly tested and then commissioned, after that were put to use immediately. It is the way of China.
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totally agree
 
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Richard Santos

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Tiberium said:
I don't think China would do some half-assed launch just to celebrate some specific date, unlike indians.
If it is launched, which means it is done deal and should be launched. For example the first 075 and first 055, they were all thoroughly tested and then commissioned, after that were put to use immediately. It is the way of China.
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whether or not a ship should be launched depends on a lot more than how far the construction of the ship has progressed in construction.

Possible factors includes the layout of the ship yard and whether parts of fitting out is more easily done in the different part of the yard, whether there is demand to vacate the dock for other use, such as another major warship.
 
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Richard Santos said:
whether or not a ship should be launched depends on a lot more than how far the construction of the ship has progressed in construction.

Possible factors includes the layout of the ship yard and whether parts of fitting out is more easily done in the different part of the yard, whether there is demand to vacate the dock for other use, such as another major warship.
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Also it's not rare for ships to go in and out of dry docks even after launch.
 
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Key features of the PLAN’s stealth fighter will likely include significant internal fuel capacity, large wing area, good wing folding reduction (note how well the J-15 “folds”), and internal weapons storage of at least 4 x AAM or 2 x AAM and 2 x land attack weapons. If based on the F/C-31, it is likely the new aircraft will have a larger wing area (and greater span) and possibly slightly longer fuselage. However, the PLAN will not want the aircraft to be too large due to the impact on hangar storage and deck operations, something they have learned from operating the J-15 and which will likely remain a key platform for the CATOBAR carriers. The new aircraft will likely have larger physical dimensions than the F-35C but smaller than the F-18E.
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At this stage it appears as though 003’s aircraft lifts are around 20 to 21m in length (using the Forward/Aft axis). Such a length is sufficient to accommodate 2 x J-15s (folded wingspan of 7.4m each), with at least 5ms for spacing.

As an exemplar, on the Queen Elizabeth-class the aircraft lifts are approximately 26.5 m in length, and can accommodate 2 x F-35Bs (wingspan approximately 10.7m) with a total span of approximately 21.4m. This suggests the RN is at least comfortable with 5ms of spacing on the lift.

It is likely that the PLAN would design the aircraft lifts on 003 to be able to accommodate two of the new Navy Fighter. It is therefore likely that the folded wingspan of the new Navy Fighter is around 8ms, given an aircraft lift length of around 20-21ms.
 
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Tiberium said:
I don't think China would do some half-assed launch just to celebrate some specific date, unlike indians.
If it is launched, which means it is done deal and should be launched. For example the first 075 and first 055, they were all thoroughly tested and then commissioned, after that were put to use immediately. It is the way of China.
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With all due respect, you are blaming them for taking a political approach, only to ... propose another political approach.
Indians were struggling, in part, due to their carrier being the first locally built carrier in their history. Jokes aside, they were basically establishing&verifying the practice.

Launch, with all its political importance (we're talking about the largest non-US warship ever, after all) is a technical event, which is determined by the established technical process of the shipyard, available infrastructure and facilities, launch restrictions, and many more considerations.
There is a relatively known and established procedure in place at Jiangnan, no point in changing it to make a statement("we are only launching finished products"). Finishing a ship on water is a normal procedure.
It's a supercarrier, not a missile craft. It won't rust away.
 
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