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Hendrik_2000

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Is there type 95 thread? Anyway important news. As I said before Sichaun is now the main lab and industry for high end armament and nuclear weapon
They said that this lab also involved in testing new reactor for Carrier
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Mysterious Sichuan base spawns new reactor for PLA vessels
Base 909, said to be located somewhere in Sichuan's Jiajiang county, was initially set up for "hydroelectric development" purposes
By ASIA TIMES STAFF JUNE 28, 2018 4:39 PM (UTC+8)


A research facility in a reclusive backwater deep in the rugged mountains in the western Chinese province of Sichuan may be the birthplace of a miniaturized nuclear reactor series that could propel the PLA’s new submarines and its future carriers.

Shrouded in secrecy, Base 909, said to be located somewhere in Sichuan’s Jiajiang county, was initially set up for “hydroelectric development” purposes. In past decades it has conducted vital nuclear research and development for the Chinese military. Among its results were the power plant for the Type 092 submarine, China’s first nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine that entered service in 1987.

A news program aired by state broadcaster China Central Television earlier this year shed more light on Base 909’s latest research achievements.

The program contained a brief close-up of a new variant of China’s third generation Hualong-1 pressurized water reactors. Known as the HPR1000, the reactors were previously applied only to commercial power generation.

Researchers at Base 909 have reportedly developed and trialed a land-based, compact version of the Hualong-1 reactor containing 177 fuel rods. The new reactor was subsequently installed in the latest Type 095 assault submarine. The first completed vessel entered service last November, and several more are said to be under construction.

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A rare peep into the labs Base 909, including those used for the development of China’s first submarine reactor. Photos: CCTV screengrab
Taipei Times analysts once noted that Type 095 submarines could potentially act as undersea escorts for PLA aircraft carrier task forces.

Two state-owned reactor builders, the Beijing-based China National Nuclear Corp and China General Nuclear Corp in Shenzhen, were ordered to merge their third-generation designs to create the Hualong-1 in an effort to explore commercial and military uses for the reactor.

Ship-borne reactors have to undergo meticulous land-based tests and troubleshooting trials to achieve absolute reliability before they can obtain certification to propel submarines and other vessels.

Sina Military also reported that there could be several other ship-borne reactor prototypes undergoing land-based trials at Base 909, adding that researchers would have to strike a careful balance between reducing a reactor’s physical size and maintaining its power output.

The report speculates that a new reactor developed to generate propulsion and electricity for China’s future nuclear carrier could well be based on the home made Hualong-1 model.

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taxiya

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Base 909 was decommissioned some time ago. Here is CCTV report on it earlier this year.
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One of the photos inside
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It was the place where the reactors of 091 and 092 were developed, but it is not used for developing 09III, VI and anything later. Even though, photographing of its interior is still restricted as it is not fully declassified.

The report says "it took more than ten years to decommission the test reactor for 091, 092. Removing the shield wall took more than 3 years." Only after the reactor core was decommissioned and buried was the site being opened for outsiders (CCTV reporters). It seems that the site has stopped being used more than ten years, how could it be used for the latest reactor for 09V?

Once again, Asia Times is just using something useless for attracting readership.
 
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Hendrik_2000

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Base 909 was decommissioned some time ago. Here is CCTV report on it earlier this year.
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One of the photos inside
1518922788279_151_875x583.png


It was the place where the reactors of 091 and 092 were developed, but it is not used for developing 09III, VI and anything later. Even though, photographing of its interior is still restricted as it is not fully declassified.

The report says "it took more than ten years to decommission the test reactor for 091, 092. Removing the shield wall took more than 3 years." Only after the reactor core was decommissioned and buried was the site being opened for outsiders (CCTV reporters). It seems that the site has stopped being used more than ten years, how could it be used for the latest reactor for 09V?

Once again, Asia Times is just using something useless for attracting readership.

Well it might be true But I am pretty sure that they open a new lab somewhere in Sichuan Nobody know where it is
Asia times got it wrong location but not about development of new reactor !
 

Intrepid

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If China can build a nuclear powered icebreaker I’m sure they can build carrier
They will proof that they can build a nuclear powered icebreaker within the next 5 years. And the proof that they can build a nuclear powered aircraft carrier will follow ten years later.
 

Jiang ZeminFanboy

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星海 says:
The recent exposed nuclear-powered icebreaker and the earlier debuted marine nuclear power platform have nothing to do with future Chinese CVN/SS(B)N. All reactors applied in these civil projects (ACP××S/ACPR××S/HHP××) are civilianized compacted SMRs rather than integrated ones.

1. The icebreaker and marine platform are military-to-civilian projects, not the other way around.
2. Future Chinese nuclear aircraft carrier and nuclear submarine have their own special designed reactors.

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taxiya

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Well it might be true But I am pretty sure that they open a new lab somewhere in Sichuan Nobody know where it is
Asia times got it wrong location but not about development of new reactor !
Of course, the research activity has never stopped, so it is done somewhere. I have not heard where. But I did hear that the ground test site of the new reactor is somewhere outside of Sichuan in a coastal province. However, the source did not say clearly whether the reactor was for submarine or for CV.
 

taxiya

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星海 says:
The recent exposed nuclear-powered icebreaker and the earlier debuted marine nuclear power platform have nothing to do with future Chinese CVN/SS(B)N. All reactors applied in these civil projects (ACP××S/ACPR××S/HHP××) are civilianized compacted SMRs rather than integrated ones.

1. The icebreaker and marine platform are military-to-civilian projects, not the other way around.
2. Future Chinese nuclear aircraft carrier and nuclear submarine have their own special designed reactors.

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I tend to agree.

The marine (ship borne ) power plant is for civilian electricity generation, it certainly use lowly enriched fuel. The military will prefer highly enriched fuel for longer life in the sub or CV. After so many decades of development, it will be shocking that PLAN still has to use reactor with civilian grade enrichment.

The ice breaker MAY install a military grade reactor designed for CV or sub. That is only a may. What is against this practice is that, the ice breaker will be highly classified vessel for its life, off limit to any civilian usage, only manned by PLAN. Then what is the purpose of building it?
 

Hendrik_2000

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Well Carrier is not Submarine I can understand the requirement for highly enriched fuel to be used in Submarine because it will result in smaller reactor and longer period of refueling without breaking up the hull of the sub

But carrier is relatively roomy and has easier access to the reactor and it does not have to be too compact . so I would say slightly enriched uranium should be ok for carrier
 
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