CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

[Intrepid]

Last year in October 2015 we didn't even identify construction start of a carrier and here we are 10 months later !! Wow

End of May 2015 we recognized the underwater torpedo protection system of a carrier and two weeks later we saw the clear layout of Kuznetsov-type engine-/boilerrooms. At that moment it was clear that the hull would become a second Liaoning.

 

[damitch300]

ueh... It was just the moment the flight deck was installed that everybody thought it was clear.
Before that there where endless discussions that it could be something else.
More like the start of 2016 or end 2015...

 

[Jeff Head]

ueh... It was just the moment the flight deck was installed that everybody thought it was clear.
Before that there where endless discussions that it could be something else.
More like the start of 2016 or end 2015...

Here's how she looked in May-June 2015:

It was months later, when she reached the stage of beginning to build out the hangar, that I personally called it as for sure a carrier:

 

[Jeff Head]

...and then of course this summer, when we saw the ski-jump in the shed and ready to be lifted onto the carrier itself, that it was clear beyond all doubt that this was (as the Chinese were saying at the time) that this was a second Liaoning, STOBAR:

 

[Intrepid]

Before that there where endless discussions that it could be something else.

There are always endless discussions because there are so many levels of knowledge.

 

[Iron Man]

There are always endless discussions because there are so many levels of knowledge.

Wow, seriously?

Perhaps you can link a post you made in June 2015 in which you called CV-17 a Liaoning-type carrier.

 

[asif iqbal]

Working like clock work !

2 X STOBAR
2 X CATOBAR

This will ensure 1 STOBAR and 1 CAROBAR on station 24/7

Also STOBAR can do regional patrols CATOBAR can do the international patrols for which they require over sea bases

 

[Intrepid]

Perhaps you can link a post you made in June 2015 in which you called CV-17 a Liaoning-type carrier.

It was on 21 JUN 2015:

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[Iron Man]

Working like clock work !

2 X STOBAR
2 X CATOBAR

This will ensure 1 STOBAR and 1 CAROBAR on station 24/7

Also STOBAR can do regional patrols CATOBAR can do the international patrols for which they require over sea bases

4 carriers could only ensure less than 2 carriers on station. You would need 6 or 7 for 2 carriers on station 24/7/365.

It was on 21 JUN 2015:

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Going by the context and your prior and subsequent posts, here you guys are still debating whether or not it's actually an aircraft carrier being constructed, not even that it's a Varyag-type carrier. I see you making the case for a carrier, though not for a Varyag carrier.

Wenn wir auf Fotos das freie Hangardeck und die seitlichen Aufbauten erkennen können, auf die sich das Gallerydeck mit dem Flugdeck als Dach stützen, haben wir mehr Gewissheit. Also noch ein halbes Jahr Geduld.

Wenn einmal die Pläne erstellt sind, sollte das eigentliche Zusammenbauen nicht mehr so lange dauern.

Größe scheint ausreichend zu sein. Ob die Rumpfform nun tatsächlich etwas schlanker vorne ist wie für einen Flugzeugträger? Ein Tanker hätte wohl einen bis weiter vorne gleichbleibend breiten Rumpf auf Höhe der Wasserlinie.

Mich wundert, das wenig Module erkennbar sind, der Rumpf scheinbar auf sehr altbackene Art und Weise Spant für Spant und Platte für Platte aufgebaut wird.

 

[bruceb1959]

Come on boys.. play nicely. is it really important who said what and when?