CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

[Klon]

Anyone like a guess what's this???

Carrier Aviation in the 21st Century?
Congratulations.

 

[Klon]

@Deino
By the way, did you write anything about the upcoming fighter and AEW aircraft in there? If so, I'm curious what you wrote.

 

[Deino]

Yes, but since we strictly stick to the facts and try to avoid any too much speculations it is only a very brief part of what is know.

Here that part if you are interested:

 

[Deleted member 13312]

A question, why is there a accommodation ship (as it is so called) moored alongside ? If construction has progressed to the point where the hardware is being tested, then surely the living quarters of the ship are also completed ? And if not, then surely the crew can find ample accommodation in the city itself with just a short drive to the carrier in question ? Or is the ship moored there for other purpose like providing energy ? ( I see several wires linking it to the carrier).

 

[Intrepid]

It is kind of a floating university (with lecture halls and so on) and the carrier has perhaps multiple crew, one part on board of the carrier and the other part learning/documentating on board of the accomodation ship. Same principle as with Liaoning (#16 and #88). At the end there are two carriers but four crews (#16, #17, #88, #89).

 

[vincent]

Yes, but since we strictly stick to the facts and try to avoid any too much speculations it is only a very brief part of what is know.

Here that part if you are interested:


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Quite interestingly

 

[schenkus]

It is kind of a floating university (with lecture halls and so on) and the carrier has perhaps multiple crew, one part on board of the carrier and the other part learning/documentating on board of the accomodation ship. Same principle as with Liaoning (#16 and #88). At the end there are two carriers but four crews (#16, #17, #88, #89).

I always thought that the accomodation ship is meant for the engineers overseeing the sea trials and fixing all the problems coming up - but I couldn't understand why a second ship would be needed once the problems on the first carrier are fixed.

But I also don't understand the logic behind having 4 crews for 2 carriers, if the aim of the second crew is to learn about carrier operations until "their own carrier" is ready.
In that case I would assume that having 1 crew more than available carriers would be enough to ensure that a "trained" crew is available for every new carrier - so you would need only one accommodation ship unless you start building multiple carriers at once.

 

[Deleted member 13312]

It is kind of a floating university (with lecture halls and so on) and the carrier has perhaps multiple crew, one part on board of the carrier and the other part learning/documentating on board of the accomodation ship. Same principle as with Liaoning (#16 and #88). At the end there are two carriers but four crews (#16, #17, #88, #89).

Seems kinda excessive, considering the fact that documentation can be done just as well on land. Moreover, seeing as the next Chinese carrier will be vastly different from the Type 001A. I don't really see the point for the extra crew to train on a fundamentally different carrier. Rudimentary skills for carrier ops maybe.

 

[Iron Man]

Carrier deployments are more limited by crew availability and less by ship maintenance needs, so two crews would get the maximal use out of a carrier deployment cycle without having to burn out a single crew. The USN has a similar "blue" and "gold" crew for each of their SSBNs, but not for their carriers. Probably due to the expense.

 

[Jeff Head]

Anyone like a guess what's this???

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Looks like some ne is getting ready to publish a new book! LOL!