CV-17 Shandong (002 carrier) Thread I ...News, Views and operations

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Hendrik_2000

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Am I seeing things ??

2011 all over again!!

Yes it is and it is called Déjà vu

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Air Force Brat

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burning tires, cooking hamburger ...

I feel like a little kid at Christmas again, when I was 8 or 9, my MOM bought me an aircraft carrier named the "Mighty Matilda", had a cranked axle and rolled back and forth like waves,,, look it up, maybe even one on E-bay,,, I've always loved everything to do with flying,,,I LOVED "BRUBAKER, and the "Bridges at TokoRi",,, what were those F9F Panthers,, GOSH! VVVVVSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH off the cat, and coming back in to land with the canopy slid back,, talk about a case of the "HOTS", now that was HOT!
 

Jeff Head

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Okay...there you go. We are seeing serious engine testing here, JAnuary 11, 2018:

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That heavy smoke is the engines being truly tested.

With CV-16, the Liaoning, on August 6 or 7, 2011this:

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was soon followed by this on August 8, 2011:

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...and then this, on August 12, 2011:

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So...we should see the new carrier take to the sea within a few days...perhaps by February 1st...maybe before.

...now I want the 1/350 scale model!

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Jeff Head

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Hi Jeff, exciting news for the Plan,, so we will have two STOBAR carriers operating side by side shortly?? any idea on what an ops plan for these two would consist of, will one be stationed near the SCS and the other in the ECS, or will they mix it up??

How many J-15s would we suspect are currently carrier qualed aboard CV-16, and would they all be operationally coded, or would some be for test and eval, or training?

exciting days ahead for the PLAN
We will see the Liaoning continue to do exercises from her base...training pilots, but also conducting other maneuvering, task force, and deployments into the ECS and the SCS.

I believe we will see CV-17 doing trials for the next 12-18 months, being commissioned some time in that time, and then beginning to build-up her airwing.

By 2021, she will be perhaps at IOC and will do exercises herself.

IMHO, if the Chinese wanted to make a BIG splash, they would send both carrier, with two Type 055s, three Type 052Ds, and three Type 054A/Bs on a long international, good will tour. Go to the US West Coast, then through the Panama Canal and down to South America, perhaps visiting Brazil. Then on to Europe, the MED, then through the Suez canal, and then visiting Africa and then the IO. Stops in PAkistan, Singapore, Malaysia perhaps, Around the world cruise of both carriers would make a HUGE statement.

That's what I would do...say in the 2021-2022 time frame.
 

longmarch

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Qing Navy made a ”goodwill” visit to Japan and it backfired spectacularly. PLA Navy is no longer Qing, but I don't see China doing this kind of showoff when two carriers are all she has. UK, India, even Japan may have two carriers in the not too distant future, so having just two carriers doesn't really make China above the pack.

Admiral Zheng He did multiple goodwill voyages when Ming dynasty had world's most powerful Navy, only to see the entire fleet disappear from history..

Given how things had turned out before, China would have many second thoughts when contemplating anything like this.

Doing joint excercise closer to home is a different story, of course.

We will see the Liaoning continue to do exercises from her base...training pilots, but also conducting other maneuvering, task force, and deployments into the ECS and the SCS.

I believe we will see CV-17 doing trials for the next 12-18 months, being commissioned some time in that time, and then beginning to build-up her airwing.

By 2021, she will be perhaps at IOC and will do exercises herself.

IMHO, if the Chinese wanted to make a BIG splash, they would send both carrier, with two Type 055s, three Type 052Ds, and three Type 054A/Bs on a long international, good will tour. Go to the US West Coast, then through the Panama Canal and down to South America, perhaps visiting Brazil. Then on to Europe, the MED, then through the Suez canal, and then visiting Africa and then the IO. Stops in PAkistan, Singapore, Malaysia perhaps, Around the world cruise of both carriers would make a HUGE statement.

That's what I would do...say in the 2021-2022 time frame.
 
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