CV-16, CV-17 STOBAR carrier thread (001/Liaoning, 002/Shandong)

bd popeye

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However, you are now comparing the enhanced special situation deployment intensity with the state of CV-17 during normal training, which is meaningless.
Honestly I'm not comparing anything. Really. Perhaps I missed something. I just wanted to point out the maximum sortie rate of a CV. That's all. In training a USN CVN flight ops can be intense. But many times the training is filled with all sorts of planned drills. All sorts. Trust me it is a pain. If I've offended anyone I sincerely apologize.
 

tphuang

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I think what PLAN has done in terms of training intensity so far on these deployment is quite good. In fact, more than what I expected that they'd be able to do at this point.

But it's silly to make statement like USN cannot do this.

We don't know what kind of sorties PLANAF is doing. We don't know what is the most number of sorties they can do. We don't know how replicable they can do in real combat environment. We can certainly hope that they are doing quality sorties in practice and that they are replicable.

It's just good to see them operating at very reasonable tempo that (I hope) is workable in a high intensity conflict.
 

escobar

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From 20th to 26th, number of takeoffs and landings by carrier-based fighter was about 250, and that of carrier-based helicopters was about 160, totaling about 410.
Sailing southwestward through waters east of Philippines. From 27th to oct 1, number of takeoffs and landings by carrier-based fighter was about 130, and that of carrier-based helicopters was about 90, totaling about 220.
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Miyayaya

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? Do you mind posting with a but more substance and context please.

Alright, here is me making up for my shitposting as a newcomer.

As we know, the Liaoning group entered the Celebes Sea about a week ago. Like foolsball mentions, it is unlikely that the Philippines did not see this movement. Whether they were unable to track the ship, chose to track it and remain silent, or the ship diverted elsewhere (we now know it headed to Sanya), each scenario was clearly intriguing.

Hence the WHERE IS LIAONING.

And now, will we see the first dual carrier operation? Combined with rumors that China might launch their Joint Sword 2024B on Double Ten Day, could these ships possibly be involved?
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Blitzo

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Alright, here is me making up for my shitposting as a newcomer.

Ideally try to avoid shitposting style posting on this forum, but especially in the primary military forums.

If there's speculation or questions, writing it in a subdued and stale manner is probably the best.


As we know, the Liaoning group entered the Celebes Sea about a week ago. Like foolsball mentions, it is unlikely that the Philippines did not see this movement. Whether they were unable to track the ship, chose to track it and remain silent, or the ship diverted elsewhere (we now know it headed to Sanya), each scenario was clearly intriguing.

Hence the WHERE IS LIAONING.

And now, will we see the first dual carrier operation? Combined with rumors that China might launch their Joint Sword 2024B on Double Ten Day, could these ships possibly be involved?
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Well it seems like Liaoning is at Hainan with Shandong, as posted above.

If there's another exercise this year, even if it's a dual carrier exercise, it would certainly be a milestone but in terms of demonstrable warfighting relevant capabilities for a Taiwan contingency, it isn't that significant.

It would probably make for some neat photos.
 
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