some interesting documents
from 20.06.2014 to 20.07.2014 Ukrainian forces abandoned T-64 - 25, BTR - 11, 2S1 "Gvozdika" - 11, BM-21 "Grad" -12, D-30 Howitzer - 5, 82 mm mortar -16, Zu-23-2 - 2, trucks -5.
All of this cuptured by DNR and LNR forces
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You do need to be very careful with allegedly leaked or hacked documents from either side. There is a steady flow of these things and all need treating with caution as they are the kind of thing that form the backbone of disinformation in wartime.
As a guide, try and wait until an authoritative source is prepared to put its authority behind the claim. Its no guarantee that it is ultimately true, but you are at least presenting something that has rather more behind it than than the fantasies of a spotty adolescent in their bedroom.
Moving on to other things.
Unable to post new video or pictures today from the Southern Cauldron as those released in last 24 hours are just to graphic to show. Suffice to say, that these positions are not abandoned by the the Ukrainian forces when attacked and the remains of what used to be people are very evident when the rebels take control of the battlefield.
I will however comment that I was struck by the solemn dignity of the militia forces that were first on the scene. There was no triumphalism or gloating over the casualties. Instead the mood was sad and sombre and the men tried to move the still very hot human remains, with all the dignity that rough circumstances and very rudimentary equipment allowed.
Beyond this both blogospehere and the official Russian media are reporting that large numbers of Ukrainian troops are surrendering to Russian forces across the border. Blogospehere is claiming hundreds while the Russian Press claims up to 50 in the last 24 hours
One thing though is worth a mention and that there is little doubt, that in this conflict, the Russian net as finally come of age, just as we saw the Chinese net emerge and rapidly mature in the late 90's and early naughties.
I say this as I see a lot of enthusiast, Russian, Russian descent and indeed none Russian spending a lot of time making serious efforts to cut through the froth and disinformation to try and achieve an image of the real truth on the ground. I obviously commend there efforts. I also think it is the hight of laziness when such people are just dismissed as Kremlin shills or stooges, when it is very obvious that they are not, any more than us here.
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