Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Chish

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The data they got is better evaluated separately as their study populations are not really randomly selected. Brazil basically got whichever healthcare workers were willing.


If anything they should toss out the Brazil data and do further trials.
The Brazil Chinese trials were stressed tests. They intentionally test on people with the maximum chances of getting Covid in order to get the worst possible results which were complicated with the mutant strain.
The trials of European vaccines were on the most healthy population with the purpose of getting the most favourable outcome.
So this mean all the trials were preformed under different circumstances with different interpretations and the results skewed towards particular situations.
This also explain the different results of the same Chinese vaccine in different countries.
 
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supercat

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For the longest time I read that Sinovac was the only one that was being peer reviewed and published in the Lancet. Now they say none of the Chinese vaccines have been peer reviewed.
I think it's actually the CanSino vaccine's early result that was published on Lancet.
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Even one of the worst U.S. propaganda media outlet New York Times now says that

Covid-19 Live Updates: W.H.O. Team in Wuhan Says It’s ‘Extremely Unlikely’ That Virus Came From Lab​

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Mt1701d

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I think it's actually the CanSino vaccine's early result that was published on Lancet.
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Lol.... well duh, NYtimes... we all know it’s not from a lab, and scientists around the world have been saying it for the better part of a year til now... it was only Trump who believed it in his delusions and tried to convince everyone, if he was some tinfoil hatter everyone would have long called it a fake news conspiracy...
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Yes, as I've described yesterday, this is a recommendation for more careful adherence to the manufacturers' testing protocols. I've explained that the new case curves for the entire US, as well as virtually all the individual states (including ALL the Biden-hating GOP red states), all plateaued around Jan 07-08, 2021. Then all of them started to display drastic decline between Jan 07 and Jan 12, 2021. The huge decline in new cases started one to two weeks before the "new" WHO memo and the Biden inaugural on Jan 20. And none of the curves showed any changes in trajectory after Jan 20, suggesting that the changes in the new cases started way before Biden took office and were not affected by his inaugural and the new WHO memo.

It would be insane to believe that any of the red/GOP/Trump states would want to do anything to please Biden and to make Biden look good. This is especially true when, between Jan 07-12 (when the drastic decline started), the Trump administration still held all the vaccines in their hands as important bargaining chips. Just look at how many red states still supported Trump on Jan 06.
 
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