PiSigma
"the engineer"
Glorified daycares so the parents can work. That's why the parents should be fired... Now they get plenty of time to take care of their kid.
Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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How is this not a victory for humankind instead of a case of country X beating country Y
That's good to hear.
You might remember the story of the woman who got released from quarantine only to come down with the highly contagious South African covid strain after mixing very closely with her friends and the wider community. It happened again with an Asian person and his child a couple of days later. We are getting close to the three week timespan and there has still been no community outbreak.... touchwood.
Meanwhile, news of the UK strain mutating again has to be worrying
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vesicles
Colonel
Yes, the mutations are very annoying indeed. This is, however, expected. The nasty part of coronaviruses is that they mutate so fast. We've known this all along since we found out about this little bug last year this time.
As I've mentioned before, we still don't know how much these existing vaccines can improve the symptoms of those who still get infected. We now only focus on total protection. We are asking the vaccines to do the impossible. Vaccines do two things: total protection and improving symptoms of those still getting infected. As in the case of flu vaccines, we have always been told that, with the vaccines, our symptoms will be much milder and we can recover sooner. The same should also be true with COVID vaccines. The improving part with Pfizer and Moderna vaccines is still less clear. So far, other vaccines, such as the Chinese vaccines, show very effective improving ability. Thus, even these vaccines show less efficacy against newer strains, such as the South African strain, I am still hopeful that the vaccines can still be very effective in helping turn the infection into something milder.
Even after the second shot, it will take about 14 days for our immune system to fully kick in. I will spend the next two weeks like I've never gotten any shot at all. After that? I won't change anything, since my wife hasn't gotten her shots yet. Although preliminary data suggest that people with the vaccines won't transmit the virus, we haven't seen the complete data. I don't want to risk getting my wife infected. So I will maintain my current protocols, washing my hands, wearing masks, disinfecting everything coming into my house, etc. We will relax after she gets her two shots. Since she is considered as general public, I have no clue when it will be her turn... I asked my hospital if they want to consider inoculating family members. They politely said no way...
vesicles
Colonel
I don't think it's yet time to use the whole population for any kind of comparison since only about 1/3 of the population has been vaccinated (not sure if it's one-shot, two-shot, or both). You also need both shots to achieve any meaningful protection. So the population that actually is protected (>14 days post second shot) is still a small percentage of the whole population. This means that it is unlikely that we will see any meaningful change in infection rate. This, I think, is why we are seeing this fluctuation of infection rates in Israel.
PeoplesPoster
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Is this the pure Sputnik vaccine or the one combined with the AstraZeneca vaccine?