Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[NiuBiDaRen]

@Crang: when C-19 started getting bad here in Canada, large numbers of Chinese students tried to get back home by any means possible, resulting in large numbers of imported C-19 cases in China. Is that supposed to be patriotism?

No. In fact, Chinese netizens were mocking them - more the permanent residents, than the international students - for rushing back home. 有了危机就突然想起祖国 - only when in trouble did you think of your country and want to rush back to China to avoid the outbreak in the West.

 

[Sardaukar20]

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India, which has reported the second highest number of COVID-19 cases worldwide, could take more than 10 years to finish its nationwide vaccination at the current rate, netizens said, in response to the Indian prime minister's boast that the country is the "fastest" in vaccinating its citizens.

He boasted that "the Made in India vaccines are not only a symbol of Atmanirbhar Bharat [self-reliant India] but they are also a symbol of self-pride."

However, some netizens have done the math and found that at the current rate, it would take more than a decade for all Indians to be vaccinated.

"And by vaccinating 2 lakhs per day, we will be able to vaccinate whole country in approximate 14 years. This government compares cases per millions of population but in vaccination it is absolute numbers. What a great speed!" a netizen tweeted.

Later, another made a "correction," saying, "Sorry, 16.98 years approximately."

Another put it even longer as calculating that "vaccinating people 30 lakh in 15 days, and 1 crore [10 million] will be in 50 days," so the netizens found that to vaccinate 130 crore, or 1.3 billion Indian citizens needs 6,500 days, or 18 years.

LOL...

Despite the long time for nationwide vaccination in India, India vowed to ramp up exports of COVID-19 vaccines.

Media reported on Sunday that as countries race to vaccinate their people against the pandemic amid global vaccine supply gaps, India is working on plans to scale up vaccine manufacture to supply as many as 60 countries and regions in the coming months.

The report noted that an additional 27 million shots of the vaccine are set to be shipped abroad on a commercial basis.

However, analysts who requested anonymity said India would face huge challenges in balancing and meeting its cumulative demand for the vaccine, as well as the risk of domestic vaccines being sold on the black market.

The analysts questioned India's sustainable production and supply. Many companies in India do not have the capacity to produce qualified vaccines, and they cannot increase capacity quickly, the analysts noted.

India. So eager to push China out of the way to "save the world". The Indian govt would rather sacrifice Indian lives and push their manufacturers hard in order for that to happen. Foreign recipients of Indian vaccines would have to give some thought for the poor Indians who sacrificed.

China reached the record of 10 million doses per day about 10 years ago, and it also can achieve this now. At such speed, the theoretical window for 70 percent of the Chinese population for inoculations is 200 days, Tao said. "China is likely to vaccinate 70 percent of its citizens to reach herd immunity within one year."

At least China knows how to balance its priorities. Make sure that everyone, including fellow Chinese gets their vaccines when they need to. China just gets down to work and tries its best to deliver on its commitments. Like how China fought the Wuhan Covid-19 outbreak. Usually, by the end, China would surprise everyone by over-delivering. Because there were no loud, outlandish promises. Just noisy fools doubting China at everything.

India makes loud promises, only to renege on them when it is time to deliver. Grotesque failures like Demonetization, Make In India, Superpower India 2020, and the 'World's Biggest Lockdown' only reinforces this fact. We shall revisit 1-year later to see how this "World's Biggest Vaccination Drive" delivers.

 

[Temstar]

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Serbia is leveraging its relationship with the east to inoculate more people than anywhere else in continental Europe.

Three days ago when I last saw this matter in the news Serbia was second quickest in vaccine rollout in Europe, now they've raced ahead to number one position thanks to Sinopharm

 

[solarz]

No. In fact, Chinese netizens were mocking them - more the permanent residents, than the international students - for rushing back home. 有了危机就突然想起祖国 - only when in trouble did you think of your country and want to rush back to China to avoid the outbreak in the West.

Dude, think about this for a second. Who's able to drop everything and move to another country on a whim? The permanent resident who has a job, a mortgage, and a family, or the international student who only has some classes that were suspended?

That's exactly what I'm talking about, dumb people on the internet making moronic accusations.

 

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[NiuBiDaRen]

Dude, think about this for a second. Who's able to drop everything and move to another country on a whim? The permanent resident who has a job, a mortgage, and a family, or the international student who only has some classes that were suspended?

That's exactly what I'm talking about, dumb people on the internet making moronic accusations.

I'm not sure why you're calling me dumb and moronic. There are lots of thirty year old Chinese nationals working in the West without children to take care of, who can easily go back to their family homes 家乡 where their parents can cook for them. They have work-at-home jobs. Not every Chinese national working in the West is a fifty year old with children to take care of like you think. Not only can they avoid the pandemic, they can eat homecooked meals easily thanks to their parents. They don't have to physically report to the workplace.

Chinese citizens abroad seek refuge from the coronavirus pandemic — at home

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Beijing police have made an example of a 37-year-old Chinese woman who works at Massachusetts biotechnology company Biogen and attended the Boston conference that has been linked to other infections, according to local media reports.

She failed to report that she was feeling sick before boarding her flight, took painkillers to suppress her fever and then lied to flight attendants about her condition, local police said.

Upon arrival, the suspicious attendants reported her to police authorities, who quarantined her and had her tested for the virus. It came back positive. She is under criminal investigation on charges of obstructing infectious-disease prevention - what I mean by permanent residents who are despised by Chinese netizens for making the dash home. Chinese international students have no choice but to hurry back home since they have no accommodation for the summer, so no one is blaming them.

 

[plawolf]

It's actually 70% of the > 60 population being inoculated. About 1/3 of their overall population has been vaccinated.

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I'm not sure how they calculated the efficacy that can be compared with the clinical trial data. Vaccine efficacy needs to be calculated using the placebo group (only available in a carefully designed trial) as a parameter. Their 0.04% is only # of people infected / # of total inoculated. This is different from the efficacy parameter..

Anyways, it's very encouraging indeed.

Actually that statistic is even more misleading when you consider the context.

Taking the last two week infected total of 86,617, halving it to get one week, and dividing by Israel’s popularise of 9m gives a weekly infection rate of 0.24%, so the vaccine is only about 83% effective at reducing the population wide infection rate, which is basically the ballpark it’s proving to be out in the wild.

But even that figure is probably massively inflated due to the fact that not all 9 million of Israel’s inhabitants would have been exposed to the virus.

To suggest that the vaccine is 83% effective at preventing Covid based on the above calculations would be like calculating car crash safety survival rates based on total number of cars in the country instead of the total number of car crashes.

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

Here's another example.

A Chinese Australian woman breached coronavirus quarantine in Beijing to go for a jog -- and lost her job

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The woman tells the officers she has an Australian passport.

"I tell you, no matter (if) you're Chinese or a foreigner, you have to comply with the law of the People's Republic of China" one of the officers says. "This is to protect yourself and to protect others."

The video caused a storm of criticism on Chinese social media, with many calling for the woman to be "repatriated back to Australia." Some internet users later found out she worked for Bayer, the German pharmaceutical giant.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1240881861687009280

Bayer's Chinese subsidiary confirmed Tuesday evening that the woman in the video was an employee -- and had been fired. "According to relevant rules, the company has decided to dismiss the employee, effective immediately," Bayer China said in a statement on its official account on Weibo, China's Twitter-like platform. "All employees of Bayer China should strictly obey the various measures imposed by local governments to fight the Covid-19 epidemic, as well as local law and regulations."

My viewpoint is that these assholes who spread COVID through their irresponsibility deserve punishment.

 

[ougoah]

Here's another example.

A Chinese Australian woman breached coronavirus quarantine in Beijing to go for a jog -- and lost her job

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The woman tells the officers she has an Australian passport.

"I tell you, no matter (if) you're Chinese or a foreigner, you have to comply with the law of the People's Republic of China" one of the officers says. "This is to protect yourself and to protect others."

The video caused a storm of criticism on Chinese social media, with many calling for the woman to be "repatriated back to Australia." Some internet users later found out she worked for Bayer, the German pharmaceutical giant.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1240881861687009280

Bayer's Chinese subsidiary confirmed Tuesday evening that the woman in the video was an employee -- and had been fired. "According to relevant rules, the company has decided to dismiss the employee, effective immediately," Bayer China said in a statement on its official account on Weibo, China's Twitter-like platform. "All employees of Bayer China should strictly obey the various measures imposed by local governments to fight the Covid-19 epidemic, as well as local law and regulations."

My viewpoint is that these assholes who spread COVID through their irresponsibility deserve punishment.

Stupid and selfish. Bayer firing her is surprisingly extreme. Wonder if China will send her back to Australia now she isn't working in China and would probably need to change her visa if she wishes to stay for whatever reason. Stupid and selfish people are the majority though. Need a firm hand to slap the idiots out of it sometimes.

 

[manqiangrexue]

Here's another example.

A Chinese Australian woman breached coronavirus quarantine in Beijing to go for a jog -- and lost her job

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The woman tells the officers she has an Australian passport.

"I tell you, no matter (if) you're Chinese or a foreigner, you have to comply with the law of the People's Republic of China" one of the officers says. "This is to protect yourself and to protect others."

The video caused a storm of criticism on Chinese social media, with many calling for the woman to be "repatriated back to Australia." Some internet users later found out she worked for Bayer, the German pharmaceutical giant.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1240881861687009280

Bayer's Chinese subsidiary confirmed Tuesday evening that the woman in the video was an employee -- and had been fired. "According to relevant rules, the company has decided to dismiss the employee, effective immediately," Bayer China said in a statement on its official account on Weibo, China's Twitter-like platform. "All employees of Bayer China should strictly obey the various measures imposed by local governments to fight the Covid-19 epidemic, as well as local law and regulations."

My viewpoint is that these assholes who spread COVID through their irresponsibility deserve punishment.

I don't know if she's infected with COVID but she's definitely been infected with white privilege and entitlement when she went to Australia! When she said "I have an Australian passport," I would have turned up the heat on her as high as legally possible just for mentioning it. Australia is in the doghouse right now and no foreign passport holder can break Chinese laws regardless of the passport. Then she had the nerve to scream, "Save my life! I'm being harassed." She must think she's a suburban white woman in America and these guards are black. I say take it as far as possible and make an example out of her and those who think like her.

Stupid and selfish. Bayer firing her is surprisingly extreme. Wonder if China will send her back to Australia now she isn't working in China and would probably need to change her visa if she wishes to stay for whatever reason. Stupid and selfish people are the majority though. Need a firm hand to slap the idiots out of it sometimes.

I don't think that's extreme at all. They have no other course of action than to immediately fire her. Any company that wants to do good business in China and avoid massive public and governmental lash back should be vigilant to always uphold the image that they have incredibly high respect for all Chinese laws and governmental orders and well as the safety/well-being of the Chinese people at heart or they will become the next Dolce & Gabbana. They should kick her out like a leper at an orgy before their whole China arm becomes unraveled for it.