Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Sardaukar20]

You really got to wonder how does someone like him hates a country so much? Just what makes thus people tick?

Here he is only 5 days ago doing another hatchet job on Xinjian. Noticed he used false images (proven) and drives around as if he was harassed to the British general public.

There is really nothing to report. It is no different to me driving outside a prison gate in the U.K., and got refused entry, made a fuzz. then they called to police to remove me, and I claim police state power. Blah blah.

"China’s pressure and propaganda - the reality of reporting Xinjiang"

By John SudworthBBC News, Beijing

15 January 2021 China

In addition to the heavy restrictions it places on foreign journalists trying to report the truth about its far western region of Xinjiang, China has a new tactic: labelling independent coverage as "fake news".

At night, while travelling for hours along Xinjiang's desert highways, the unmarked cars that had been following us from the moment we arrived would tailgate us at speed, driving dangerously close with their headlights on full beam.

Their occupants - who never identified themselves - forced us to leave one city by chasing us out of restaurants and shops, ordering the owners not to serve us.

The report we produced, despite these difficulties, contained new evidence - much of it based on China's own policy documents - that thousands of Uighurs and other minorities are being forced to pick cotton in a region responsible for a fifth of the world's crop.

Rest of the trash article:

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He just had to mention "picking cotton". Its perfect subliminal messaging to Western audiences to build the "Uighur slavery" narrative. When an American justice warrior reads that, straightaway his/her mind pictures the black slaves who were once picking cottons in the US. Wonderful to build outrage, anger, and hate towards China. Why can't John Sudworth lie about "Uighur slavery" for other crops? Like Xinjang Grapes, or Xinjiang Hami Melons? Naah, because it wont have the same impact as cotton picking. He is a cunning propagandist. He knows what he is doing.

John Sudworth and his kind of people are the typical type of anti-China haters from the so called 'liberal-left progressives'. Unlike the right wing conservatives who are quite loud and blunt with their hate on China. These people know how to manipulate the masses to hate China. Both sides lie, but one side knows how to do it so much better. I dare say that these people are far more dangerous than the right-wing haters. These people laid out the foundation of lies and disinformation that gives the right-wingers and racists their justification to hate on China. These people after-all gave the energy to the HK democrazy mobs, Ukrainian Nazis, Islamic terrorists, etc to hate, and if possible, kill their supposed enemies.

That is why a Biden presidency gives me no faith of improvements in US-China ties. What we will get is a different kind of anti-China hate. No more big bombastic bluster like Trump or Steve Bannon. What we will get is more subtle, suggestive, even manipulative type of anti-China messages. I do hope the Chinese govt takes this liberal-left China haters threat more seriously. Their past track record in countering against these folks is frankly quite abysmal. That led to the avalanche of China hating we witnessed during the Trump presidency. Trump and his fellow right wing conservatives are easy. These "liberal-lefts" are on another league.

 

[HybridHypothesis]

The manufacturing/QC process for nucleic acid synthesis is pretty mature makes it hard to generate significant amount of defects



Things like prions would require specific sequences to make. Even if a protein is self templating or aggregating it is rarely deleterious



The good thing here is that the mRNA is shortlived and any problems should be temporary.

Wrong. Internal documents show that "acceptable levels of truncated mRNA" are within the 50% range.

 

[vesicles]

Each dose of the vaccine contains millions, if not billions of mRNA strands. Even a 0.1% defect rate would mean significant number of wrongly encoded mRNA that can generate unknown effects on your cells.

No worries. Our cells have complex mechanisms to search and destroy aberrant and unwanted mRNAs. Any mRNA fragments that lack proper signals will be grabbed and destroyed quickly. You can be sure that those "manufacturing defects" will definitely not have any proper signals. That's why they are called "fragments", as in "lacking the complete signal"... Even normal mRNAs are actively degraded in our cells. What you have to worry is that the mRNA vaccine enters our cells and gets degraded too quickly before they get a chance to be translated to viral parts to stimulate our immune responses. The bad part of too much defects is that you will have lower concentrations of the proper mRNA vaccine molecules, which will lead to lower efficacy.

 

[PiSigma]

Some personal experience has highlighted another possible overlooked area when looking at Covid statistics, which is the persistent issue of false negative test results.

A colleague’s relative is extremely poorly with all the symptoms of Covid, but has returned 3 negative PCR tests.

While that might, on the face of it, look like pretty convincing evidence she does have Covid, if the figure in the below article is correct, that means there is potentially up to a 12.5% chance for someone with Covid to return three negative test results! Hardly an insignificant percentage or number of likely real-life examples.

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My personal trainer recently got covid from his daughter. His daughter caught if from a classmate and tested positive with no symptoms throughout the entire period (she is 10). Both my trainer and his wife had mild to medium symptoms for 5-8 days, and both tested negative twice. So 4 false negative tests!

 

[vesicles]

I don't know how true this is. Or is just someone being anti-vaccines. But here it is. Someone has posted this about someone's mother on our whats app group after taking the Pfizer vaccines.

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I would not doubt very few people will respond badly to the vaccine. Water is absolutely essential to us. However, every year at marathons all around the world, dozens of people die of drinking too much water too fast. It's called severe hyponatremia, which causes multiple organ failure and brain swelling. Any one of these symptoms will kill you. Vaccines contain various foreign particles directly injected into your muscle cells. Some people will undoubtedly respond badly. But the percentage is very very very low, much lower than the chances of getting infected by a nasty virus...

 

[vesicles]

And don't worry that some random pieces of mRNAs will be translated to some random amino acid sequences and will cause our cells to do weird things. In order for a piece of mRNA to be converted to amino acids, it needs to contain a complete "leader sequence". This sequence is a signal that attracts our own "mRNA-to-protein" translation machinery. Without a fully functional leader sequence, our cells won't consider this mRNA fragment to be translated. And the mRNA fragment will be immediately grabbed and sent to be degraded and recycled.

 

[vincent]

And don't worry that some random pieces of mRNAs will be translated to some random amino acid sequences and will cause our cells to do weird things. In order for a piece of mRNA to be converted to amino acids, it needs to contain a complete "leader sequence". This sequence is a signal that attracts our own "mRNA-to-protein" translation machinery. Without a fully functional leader sequence, our cells won't consider this mRNA fragment to be translated. And the mRNA fragment will be immediately grabbed and sent to be degraded and recycled.

There is still a chance of the "leader sequence" is fine but there are errors in the rest.

 

[vesicles]

There is still a chance of the "leader sequence" is fine but there are errors in the rest.

Yes, there is still a chance, a minute chance. We have been evolving for the past billion years and our cells have complex mechanisms to defend us against random peptides. Our cells have multiple "check points" to confirm each step in their complex machineries. Any random mistakes will be recognized and corrected. If they cannot correct some mistakes, the entire cell will be told to end its own life. When you introduce foreign objects into our body, the most you will have to worry is that our body will figure out various ways to kick it out or destroy it.

 

[vesicles]

Yesterday, I accidentally choked myself during dinner. The chances of choking are very real. Should I avoid eating altogether to avoid choking? It's a risk worth taking... Similarly, will weird things happen when you get a vaccine? Sure, there is a chance. Is it a risk worth taking? It's, of course, your choice. For me, it is a risk worth taking. I am 120% sure that we will hear all kinds of weird side effects. Keep in mind that we will have billions of people taking these vaccines (as of this past weekend, we have had 12 million inoculated with the vaccines in the US alone). Even when we have a very safe vaccine with once-in-a-million chance of bad things happening, we will have hundreds of thousands of people complaining about bad things happening to them.

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

He just had to mention "picking cotton". Its perfect subliminal messaging to Western audiences to build the "Uighur slavery" narrative. When an American justice warrior reads that, straightaway his/her mind pictures the black slaves who were once picking cottons in the US. Wonderful to build outrage, anger, and hate towards China. Why can't John Sudworth lie about "Uighur slavery" for other crops? Like Xinjang Grapes, or Xinjiang Hami Melons? Naah, because it wont have the same impact as cotton picking. He is a cunning propagandist. He knows what he is doing.

John Sudworth and his kind of people are the typical type of anti-China haters from the so called 'liberal-left progressives'. Unlike the right wing conservatives who are quite loud and blunt with their hate on China. These people know how to manipulate the masses to hate China. Both sides lie, but one side knows how to do it so much better. I dare say that these people are far more dangerous than the right-wing haters. These people laid out the foundation of lies and disinformation that gives the right-wingers and racists their justification to hate on China. These people after-all gave the energy to the HK democrazy mobs, Ukrainian Nazis, Islamic terrorists, etc to hate, and if possible, kill their supposed enemies.

That is why a Biden presidency gives me no faith of improvements in US-China ties. What we will get is a different kind of anti-China hate. No more big bombastic bluster like Trump or Steve Bannon. What we will get is more subtle, suggestive, even manipulative type of anti-China messages. I do hope the Chinese govt takes this liberal-left China haters threat more seriously. Their past track record in countering against these folks is frankly quite abysmal. That led to the avalanche of China hating we witnessed during the Trump presidency. Trump and his fellow right wing conservatives are easy. These "liberal-lefts" are on another league.

They have a list of trigger keywords to use to get the desired effect.

Keywords: slavery, cotton, totalitarianism, social credit, surveillance, debt trap, repression, militarizing etc.

When Sudworth writes an article, he looks at his list, and tries to massage as many keywords into the article as possible. That's why he's such an effective BBC reporter. He's from the same bloodline as Joseph Goebbels.