Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

solarz

Brigadier
You hit the nail on the head with this one, and I was just about to make the same point - it is blatantly obvious that western ‘scientific advice’ had been thoroughly tainted by politics, and is thus unreliable, to put it charitably!

Indeed, it looks like western politicians have managed to pervert and weaponise science and twist it to suit their own ends.

Whenever they don’t want to make a politically and/or economically costly move to tackle the virus, their go-to excuse is now that there ‘isn’t scientific evidence’ for it. Same when they want to make a move, they just claim there isn’t scientific evidence against it.

Basically they are demanding the most rigorous standards of scientifically proof when they are being challenged on calls that will blatantly set-back efforts to contain the outbreak, knowing full well that such evidence isn’t readily available and that by the time it can be scientifically proven, it will already be too late to stop them from doing what they want.

In addition to the examples cited by Solarz, the most recent and current example are the plans to allow a free-for-all over Christmas.

Anyone with half a brain cell and see what that will do, but western political leaders hide behind the excuse that it isn’t scientifically proven yet. All so they can’t be accused of ‘cancelling Christmas’.

Imagine what would have happened had Chinese leaders shown such contemptible cowardice about the prospect of cancelling the Chinese New Year when this was first detected.

China has been the only major country to not try to argue or spin science, and use science to guide its responses, which is shockingly why China has been the only country to have been able to stop a full blown outbreak in its tracks

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A short 15-second video circulating on Twitter shows Associate Medical Officer of Health Dr. Barbara Yaffe unpacking some papers next to her colleague Dr. David Williams prior to the beginning of their twice-weekly briefing.

At one point before the briefing gets underway, Yaffe remarks “I don’t know why I bring all these papers. I never look at them. I just say whatever they write down for me.
 

getready

Senior Member
If it is not impossible, then it is possible. I think NZ has also had an outbreak that was suspicious of frozen imports. Don't rule out anything. That is science. Trying to dismiss the possibilities because it is extremely unlikely is not science. Remember these same people were dismissive of face masks and asymptomatic transmission a few months ago. Nothing is wrong for being caution. These media need to stop being so bias.

What's npr reputation like? I'm not from the states
 

KYli

Brigadier
What's npr reputation like? I'm not from the states

NPR is considered to be left-leaning media or the so called liberal bias media. Its influence and reputation has diminished over the years. Its primary audience is from radio stations. I would say NPR focuses more on domestic and local contentious issues but also tries to steer away from controversy. Obviously, conservatives are very critical of NPR. That gives the rise of conservative talk radio. If you know anything about the US politics, then you should know that the conservative radio commentators made the modern Republican Party.

Going back to NPR, it is less bias than most radio stations I tune into. Or you could say other radio stations have become more bias over the years. Even for Bloomberg radio station that should be focused upon business news, it can't stop criticize and attack China for every opportunity they get.
 

vesicles

Colonel
NPR is considered to be left-leaning media or the so called liberal bias media. Its influence and reputation has diminished over the years. Its primary audience is from radio stations. I would say NPR focuses more on domestic and local contentious issues but also tries to steer away from controversy. Obviously, conservatives are very critical of NPR. That gives the rise of conservative talk radio. If you know anything about the US politics, then you should know that the conservative radio commentators made the modern Republican Party.

Going back to NPR, it is less bias than most radio stations I tune into. Or you could say other radio stations have become more bias over the years. Even for Bloomberg radio station that should be focused upon business news, it can't stop criticize and attack China for every opportunity they get.

NPR is definitely left-leaning, but I wouldn't say its influence has diminished. Most people I know, including myself, still listen to NPR in the morning on my way to work. Also their classic music program in the afternoon and night...
 

steel21

Junior Member
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NPR is definitely left-leaning, but I wouldn't say its influence has diminished. Most people I know, including myself, still listen to NPR in the morning on my way to work. Also their classic music program in the afternoon and night...
I used to listen to NPR, and This American Life as well as On Point.

This American Life has gone off the rails from its heyday when it did shows on racial identity (Family Physics), Iraqi war civilian casualty study and calamari replacements, the topic are just not as funny or intriguing. I listened to their show on HK last year, but it was so one sided on the protesters.

On Point came off my list when then invited Gordon Chang.

NPR as a whole has also become more and more biased, particularly on its China reporting, with the exception of its one interview with NYT on what China did right during the Pandemic.

Perhaps its not NPR, but me. The more I'm more informed, the more I feel the entire English media are incapable of critical analysis.
 

emblem21

Major
Registered Member
I used to listen to NPR, and This American Life as well as On Point.

This American Life has gone off the rails from its heyday when it did shows on racial identity (Family Physics), Iraqi war civilian casualty study and calamari replacements, the topic are just not as funny or intriguing. I listened to their show on HK last year, but it was so one sided on the protesters.

On Point came off my list when then invited Gordon Chang.

NPR as a whole has also become more and more biased, particularly on its China reporting, with the exception of its one interview with NYT on what China did right during the Pandemic.

Perhaps its not NPR, but me. The more I'm more informed, the more I feel the entire English media are incapable of critical analysis.
The scary part is that I feel like they are just waiting for any bad news from China just so they can throw shade on that and capitalise on it for maximum effect to help there own nations to ignore there own crisis’s. Only problem with logic is that it does nothing but make things worse and ultimately there lack of truth I feel is turning more and more people against the governments since the media is all for lockdowns while providing little help to the every day person. It just goes to show that by downplaying the situation like this is becoming the undoing of these people give or take a few months since the media seem to be pushing the vaccine narrative like crazy while the vaccines in question have been developed so fast and with important steps skipped along with a new procedure (mRNA) that has never really been put into circulation before, that any adverse problems associated with it will cause people to turn away and should the government mandate the vaccines by force, the consequences will be dire.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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European Leaders Isolating After Macron Tests Positive for Covid


Leaders from across Europe announced they’re isolating after coming into contact with French President Emmanuel Macron who tested positive for Covid-19. Macron had shown symptoms of the disease and will isolate for seven days as he continues to work, his office said in a statement on Thursday. An official at the Elysee Palace said the symptoms were mild, but declined to provide details on the circumstances of the infection or where the president will be isolating. Macron’s diagnosis, days before his 43rd birthday, comes at a particularly sensitive time. France is struggling to tame a resurgence of the virus, with the president fielding criticism of his handling of the crisis and the economic fallout. He’s also trying to push through controversial plans to bolster the powers of the police while dealing with the closing stages of Brexit.
 
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