Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

lgnxz

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Number of cases in the Phase III Brazil trials have reached 170, above the number required for final analysis of 151. Dimas Covas, director of Butantan is now sending final documentation to both the Brazilian and Chinese regulators for full approval on the same day, December 23.

Basically Sao Paolo state no longer trusts Bolsonaro, will probably get China to force through the approval with the complete set of data.

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See, I told you all before, and it actually happens. Now that you have a blatant example of a hostile government delaying the report for geopolitical reason, sinovac must announce their own result, without waiting for these foreign governments. Data sharing between the chinese companies and with the institutions doing the onsite testing surely happened, right??? In the brazil case for example, the article said that if the vaccine gets an official approval from china, the brazilian health agency's hand will be forced by a law passed in february that they have to analyze the vaccine within 72 hours and decide whether to approve it as well or not, with scientific reasonings to it.

Same thing goes to sinopharm, what's with the complete radio silence over the official approval in UAE and Bahrain?? What's their opinion regarding the reported 86% efficacy? Where's the paper showing all the data, are we still waiting for them to share it as well? :rolleyes: Like come on, do they really take such a hands-off approach and relinquish it all to foreign governments to decide the quality, timing, and marketing aspect of such an important product? Making an official announcement will trigger a domino effect on the vaccine orders, same thing with the price of their stock market, the sooner the better especially since the main competitor astrazenica's and gamelaya's are having a stumble in their trials...
 

lgnxz

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Oh wait, gamaleya actually announced their official result yesterday
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with 91.4% efficacy

Guess china is quite behind in term of the vaccine development time huh..
 

Hendrik_2000

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China is ready to rollout Siopharm vaccine
Chinese pharmaceutical giant Sinopharm is getting ready for the national distribution of its COVID-19 vaccine. The phase three trial results of the Sinopharm vaccine have been promising. The company now awaits official approval from Chinese authorities for a nationwide rollout.
 

manqiangrexue

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Oh wait, gamaleya actually announced their official result yesterday
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with 91.4% efficacy

Guess china is quite behind in term of the vaccine development time huh..
When it comes to COVID vaccine development, China and the West operate under different philosophies. China's philosophy is to take the utmost care and caution to develop a vaccine that can safely protect its population against infection in a timely fashion. The Western philosophy is that they were already paid a bajillion dollars by the US government to come out with something ahead of China so they need to slap together whatever they can as quickly as possible as long as it isn't so terrible they get sued into bankruptcy for criminal negligence.
 

j17wang

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See, I told you all before, and it actually happens. Now that you have a blatant example of a hostile government delaying the report for geopolitical reason, sinovac must announce their own result, without waiting for these foreign governments. Data sharing between the chinese companies and with the institutions doing the onsite testing surely happened, right??? In the brazil case for example, the article said that if the vaccine gets an official approval from china, the brazilian health agency's hand will be forced by a law passed in february that they have to analyze the vaccine within 72 hours and decide whether to approve it as well or not, with scientific reasonings to it.

Same thing goes to sinopharm, what's with the complete radio silence over the official approval in UAE and Bahrain?? What's their opinion regarding the reported 86% efficacy? Where's the paper showing all the data, are we still waiting for them to share it as well? :rolleyes: Like come on, do they really take such a hands-off approach and relinquish it all to foreign governments to decide the quality, timing, and marketing aspect of such an important product? Making an official announcement will trigger a domino effect on the vaccine orders, same thing with the price of their stock market, the sooner the better especially since the main competitor astrazenica's and gamelaya's are having a stumble in their trials...

Brazil can play the game all they want, china doesn't need to deliver sinovac to them until they decide to use it themselves. The chileans and argentinians are perfectly happy getting earlier doses.
 

solarz

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When it comes to COVID vaccine development, China and the West operate under different philosophies. China's philosophy is to take the utmost care and caution to develop a vaccine that can safely protect its population against infection in a timely fashion. The Western philosophy is that they were already paid a bajillion dollars by the US government to come out with something ahead of China so they need to slap together whatever they can as quickly as possible as long as it isn't so terrible they get sued into bankruptcy for criminal negligence.

Didn't someone already mention that those vaccine companies will not be liable for any side effects? So they don't even need to worry about being sued.
 
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