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oh it depends which Party faction they are -- later they may even get declared to be heroes
Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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Top anti-corruption agency to probe whistle-blower case
The Chinese government’s highest anti-corruption agency is sending an investigation team to Hubei following widespread public anger over the death of a doctor who sounded an early alarm about the new virus.
The National Supervisory Commission said the team would conduct a “comprehensive investigation” into the issues raised by the public about , the 34-year-old doctor who died on Friday and is fast becoming a national hero.
Coronavirus: tributes and anger after death of Wuhan whistle-blower doctor Li Wenliang
The death of the doctor who was reprimanded by police for being one of the first whistle-blowers of the Wuhan has sparked an outpouring of grief and anger on Chinese social media.
Tributes for 34-year-old Li Wenliang flooded in after was reported by media, including Global Times, Caixin, and The Beijing News, on Thursday evening.
On Thursday night and Friday morning, three rapidly trending social media hashtags – “The Wuhan government owes Li Wenliang an apology”, “I want freedom of speech” and “We want freedom of speech” – were seen millions of times before they were censored.
Angry comments about the official announcement of his death were also deleted, including one that read: “I’ve learned two phrases: political rescue and performative rescue.”
Li was one of eight people disciplined by Wuhan authorities in January for “spreading rumours” after he warned a university alumni WeChat group on December 30 of a Sars-like disease that had sickened several patients then quarantined in a hospital.
Li – along with seven others, including at least three doctors, who shared information about the outbreak – was summoned by police and forced to sign a letter promising to make no further disclosures about the disease.
In a Weibo post discussing how he broke the news and his interactions with the police, Li said he returned to work on January 3 after the police reprimand and a week later he started to cough.
“I was feverish on January 11 and was hospitalised the next day. Back then, the government still insisted that there was no human-to-human transmission, and said none of the medical staff had been infected. I was just confused,” he wrote on January 31.
The Chinese government’s highest anti-corruption agency is sending an investigation team to Hubei following widespread public anger over the death of a doctor who sounded an early alarm about the new virus.
The National Supervisory Commission said the team would conduct a “comprehensive investigation” into the issues raised by the public about , the 34-year-old doctor who died on Friday and is fast becoming a national hero.
Coronavirus: tributes and anger after death of Wuhan whistle-blower doctor Li Wenliang
The death of the doctor who was reprimanded by police for being one of the first whistle-blowers of the Wuhan has sparked an outpouring of grief and anger on Chinese social media.
Tributes for 34-year-old Li Wenliang flooded in after was reported by media, including Global Times, Caixin, and The Beijing News, on Thursday evening.
On Thursday night and Friday morning, three rapidly trending social media hashtags – “The Wuhan government owes Li Wenliang an apology”, “I want freedom of speech” and “We want freedom of speech” – were seen millions of times before they were censored.
Angry comments about the official announcement of his death were also deleted, including one that read: “I’ve learned two phrases: political rescue and performative rescue.”
Li was one of eight people disciplined by Wuhan authorities in January for “spreading rumours” after he warned a university alumni WeChat group on December 30 of a Sars-like disease that had sickened several patients then quarantined in a hospital.
Li – along with seven others, including at least three doctors, who shared information about the outbreak – was summoned by police and forced to sign a letter promising to make no further disclosures about the disease.
In a Weibo post discussing how he broke the news and his interactions with the police, Li said he returned to work on January 3 after the police reprimand and a week later he started to cough.
“I was feverish on January 11 and was hospitalised the next day. Back then, the government still insisted that there was no human-to-human transmission, and said none of the medical staff had been infected. I was just confused,” he wrote on January 31.
Any info on this online anger at government
Some media described Li as a hero “willing to speak the truth” but there were signs that discussion of his death was being censored.
The topics “the Wuhan government owes doctor Li Wenliang an apology” and “we want free speech” briefly trended on Weibo late on Thursday, but yielded no search results on Friday.
Some media described Li as a hero “willing to speak the truth” but there were signs that discussion of his death was being censored.
The topics “the Wuhan government owes doctor Li Wenliang an apology” and “we want free speech” briefly trended on Weibo late on Thursday, but yielded no search results on Friday.
"That is History," he says. With a capital H, no less.
It's always hilarious to me when Americans opine about history; they seem to have so much to say about history for a people who have so little of it. Your "understanding" of Chinese history is a caricature at best, so let me enlighten you some: The "Mandate of Heaven" applies to all countries, you only notice it in China because it's China alone that stood the test of time. Every other historical peer civilization - Greece, Rome, Persia, Egypt, Sumeria, et al. - has shrunken into a marginal modern state that has no continuity with what came before. Only China has endured to emerge into a superpower with direct cultural, historical, and linguistic links to its antecedents. If you think otherwise, tell me where else do students learn millennia-old poems in a living language?
America has existed for fewer years than a typical Chinese interregnum and already it's had one civil war that nearly broke it. It's very rapidly cooking up a second one; let's see if it survives this one. If I were an American, I would pray to the god from my borrowed religion (I needn't tell you, scholar of history that you are, that Jesus has nothing to do with America) that my time on this Earth is done before I get a practical demonstration of the Mandate of Heaven's withdrawal.
Hendrik_2000
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I don't know why you still hope that this will spark discontent in China and resulting in chaos and elimination of threat to the western supremacy. REPEAT AFTER ME It won't happened
China survive SAR, Embargo, GLF, CR, Flood, Famine and WWII And epidemic of flu is not going to stop China
Democrazy and free speech is not the answer to China flu epidemic. If anything only strong central government can marshall the state resources to face the epidemic. They can improve epidemic warning system but Revolution just because of Flu look how well is American answer to swine flu epidemic So should we say that the american system is a failure? Ridiculous
The Flu will eventually burn itself down !
proly more FLG HK TW CIA opportunistic shenanigans
to many of us keen observers, we’ve known that all this bs is to disrupt Chinese progress and was never about the wellbeing of the Chinese people
And also, just to be consistent with their message of human rights and free market, they should be handing out visas and citizenships and not block immigration since freedom to travel is part of a free economy. But its not possible. They want Chinese money and labor but not actual Chinese in their countries.
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These stooges love things like this and often engineer them into existence. They are only threatened by the competition and rivalry. Of course somehow this tragedy turns into a call to revolution. Lol sure there still a lot of ways the CCP can and will improve and many things it's absolutely terrible in (at least in a way where I cannot understand their supposed wisdom) but somehow this is good enough to throw the baby out with the bathwater. People don't seem to understand they are conflating issues and creating false dichotomies in their minds. It's frankly intellectually pathetic. Then again I've always been astonished at how feeble minded the average human is... regardless of nationality and culture.
for a thread that is about a disease in China.. there sure are quite alot of posts critisizing the US, it almost feels like half the posts are about the US instead of China.
just like how Indians keep on bringing up China even though the Chinese themselves don't care about India, alot of members here keep on bringing up the US, as if the current crisis is one that is between China & the US instead of it being an internal one between China & a disease.
just like how Indians keep on bringing up China even though the Chinese themselves don't care about India, alot of members here keep on bringing up the US, as if the current crisis is one that is between China & the US instead of it being an internal one between China & a disease.
There's a narrative going around that the Wuhan authorities somehow failed in their handling of this virus. I think it behooves us to be skeptical of this narrative and ask the right questions instead of just being swept along by the current. Exactly how did the local government fail? The coronavirus family is a very broad one, and includes the common cold; should a city be quarantined every time a new variant of the common cold shows up? It was unknown if the virus had the ability to transmit between humans (most viruses that cross from animals don't) or, even if it did, that it was particularly dangerous. Once such dangerous mutations were suspected, the authorities went into action, and maximal action at that.
That's just the way things are now; we're in a geopolitical struggle, so everything is going to be weaponized to serve each side in the struggle. Welcome to the Second Cold War.
Then tell the traitors and imperialists to stop trying to politicize everything and disrupt China. If they wanna help they shouldn’t block mask exports like in TW and make nurses go on strike to block China HK border. The outsiders need to be criticized or they get more bold with their tactics now they they can’t defeat China militarily.
Unity and being on the same page is critical during times of crisis.