Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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Quickie
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It's very possible the early variant of the coronavirus mostly caused asymptomatic or mild flu-like diseases which explains why it went undetected in the early phase of the spread of the virus in Spain and Italy (maybe Europe).
Quickie
Colonel
I suppose the U.S. is the only country that won't be traceable since Trump has already booted out WHO from the country.
China urges more cooperation with WHO on COVID-19 traceability
BEIJING, Nov. 17 (Xinhua) -- China calls on all countries to strengthen cooperation with the World Health Organization (WHO) on the traceability of the COVID-19 virus, a Foreign Ministry spokesperson said here on Tuesday.
Reports indicated that the coronavirus could have been circulating in Italy since September 2019, five months before the first case emerged in Italy, according to a study released recently by the National Cancer Institute (INT) in Milan, Italy.
In response, spokesperson Zhao Lijian said it further indicated that virus traceability is a complex scientific issue, and scientists should carry out international scientific research and cooperation to promote the understanding of virus animal hosts and the transmission routes. This cooperation would better prevent future risks and protect the safety and health of people.
He noted that virus traceability is a continuous development process involving many countries and that China hoped the entire international community would adopt a positive attitude and strengthen cooperation with the WHO on the issue. Enditem
China urges more cooperation with WHO on COVID-19 traceability
BEIJING, Nov. 17 (Xinhua) -- China calls on all countries to strengthen cooperation with the World Health Organization (WHO) on the traceability of the COVID-19 virus, a Foreign Ministry spokesperson said here on Tuesday.
Reports indicated that the coronavirus could have been circulating in Italy since September 2019, five months before the first case emerged in Italy, according to a study released recently by the National Cancer Institute (INT) in Milan, Italy.
In response, spokesperson Zhao Lijian said it further indicated that virus traceability is a complex scientific issue, and scientists should carry out international scientific research and cooperation to promote the understanding of virus animal hosts and the transmission routes. This cooperation would better prevent future risks and protect the safety and health of people.
He noted that virus traceability is a continuous development process involving many countries and that China hoped the entire international community would adopt a positive attitude and strengthen cooperation with the WHO on the issue. Enditem
Well, have any one consider that the military Olympic in Wuhan at fall last year where half the world military attended including those from Italy, USA and Spain could have something to do with It?
Just can't take Ted Cruz seriously any more after Trump insulted him about his ugly wife, yet he still bend over backwards to back him.
Does anyone in the US, or Texas still like him?
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
His voters do unless they're rigging the election.
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Colonel
Guys, just look at the US now, with tens of millions of cases and desperately overwhelmed hospitals all over the country. This is a picture of how a virus tends to spread uncontrollably for 9-10 months. IF SARS-CoV-2 has been around Italy and other parts of Europe since March 2019, that's almost 11 months before the outbreak in Wuhan. That's 11 months of totally undetected and uncontrolled spreading with no human intervention of any kind. This means, even at the time of Wuhan outbreak, we should expect to see hundreds of million, if not billions, of cases all infected with unique European strains. Of course, you can say that people at the time had no idea what's going on and didn't know what to detect. One thing that is totally unrelated to detection is hospitalization, ICU admission and death. Based on what we see with what is happening in the US now, this means, at the time of the Wuhan outbreak, we should see European hospitals being seriously overwhelmed by mysterious illnesses. This is, however, not what we saw back then. Italy's hospitals only became overwhelmed in March and April 2020, after Wuhan. And we have no evidence that hospitals throughout Italy and Spain were all faking normal operations in 2019.
Also, with the European strains allowed to proliferate uncontrollably for almost a year before the Chinese strains, there would be no way the Chinese strains can take over and dominate as they are doing now. Epidemiological analyses almost unanimously show the Chinese strains as the originating strains for almost all the different viral strains now distributed around the world.
I don't know how to explain the new evidence in Italy and Spain. My own suspicion is contaminated samples. This happens quite often in labs even under the most ideal conditions. Even rock samples taken from Mars had been contaminated with earth bacteria despite the most careful and strict protocols of handling them...
With a virus capable of spreading so quickly, they should be able to detect evidence of the virus everywhere they look from samples they collect between March 2019 to the end of 2019. Yet, all they can find is isolated samples. this is to me an issue of contaminated samples.
Also, with the European strains allowed to proliferate uncontrollably for almost a year before the Chinese strains, there would be no way the Chinese strains can take over and dominate as they are doing now. Epidemiological analyses almost unanimously show the Chinese strains as the originating strains for almost all the different viral strains now distributed around the world.
I don't know how to explain the new evidence in Italy and Spain. My own suspicion is contaminated samples. This happens quite often in labs even under the most ideal conditions. Even rock samples taken from Mars had been contaminated with earth bacteria despite the most careful and strict protocols of handling them...
With a virus capable of spreading so quickly, they should be able to detect evidence of the virus everywhere they look from samples they collect between March 2019 to the end of 2019. Yet, all they can find is isolated samples. this is to me an issue of contaminated samples.
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Or maybe some lab in Europe or America was planning to use this against China as per of yet another stupid scheme to take China down while spreading democracy like the lying hypocrites they are, like they tried to do in Xinjiang and HK just recently only that not only has it failed but now all this backfired in the more horrific fashion available whilst striking the very heart of democracy by proving that on the whole, democracy with western characteristics has failed in ever sense of the word against this virus and it has exposed there weaknesses for all the world to see.
There is simply no way this virus could be so wide spread and so mutated unless this virus didn't originate in the USA and also didn't have the time to mutate to the extent it has because if you think about it, how can so many people die of the flu each year in the USA and they even confirmed early this year that some of these flu victims have coronavirus symptoms
