Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

ChineseToTheBone

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Lets not blame all this on trump. Trump was elected fair and square by the american people (unless someone can point to a smoking gun that whatever meddling Russia did actually tipped the scales in favour of Trump).

For example, like what the Senate Intelligence Committee revealed just yesterday?

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  • Trump's campaign chairman Paul Manafort's "high-level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services" was regarded as a "grave counterintelligence threat," and his "presence on the Campaign and proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign."
  • Manafort was working directly with Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian intelligence officer, and tried to share internal campaign information with him. The committee says it obtained "some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected" to Russia's 2016 hacking operation of Hillary Clinton's emails and the Democratic National Committee.
  • Roger Stone was tasked by the campaign with finding all he could about what information WikiLeaks had about Clinton and Democrats more broadly, and "Trump and the Campaign believed that Stone had inside information and expressed satisfaction that Stone's information suggested more releases would be forthcoming."
  • Two other Russians who took part in the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with the top brass of the President's campaign had "significant connections to Russian government, including the Russian intelligence services."
  • Russian government actors continued until at least January 2020 to spread disinformation about Russia's role in the 2016 election -- and Manafort (and Kilimnik) actively participated in this influence campaign by blaming the meddling on Ukraine.
  • Russia took advantage of the Trump transition team's inexperience and opposition to Obama administration policies "to pursue unofficial channels." And it's likely that Russian intelligence services exploited the Trump's transition team's lack of experience for Russia's advantage.
 

supercat

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Trump was elected fair and square by the american people
Well, Hillary Clinton received 2.87 million more votes than Trump but ended up losing the election, making the U.S. "democracy" such a joke.

There are a lot of people in the U.S. who are either stupid or deeply indoctrinated by the MSM. For example, to this day 36% Americans "approve" (whatever that means) Trump's handling of COVID-19! I thought the approval rating would be in single digit by now.
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CanSino Biologics' vaccine, which has been approved for use by Chinese military, will start phase 3 trial in Russia, as well as in Mexico and Saudi Arabia.
 

KYli

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It is not just coronavirus but also conspiracy theories such as Pizzagate. It is just mind blowing how many people believe Pizzagate and continue to spread this theory. It just shows that something is very wrong in the American society. In addition, QAnon is so popular and wide spread that it is just scary.
 

shanlung

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And where is USA ?
Preparing for war with China instead?
While letting Americans die by the thousands upon thousands?
Blaming everyone except D utter incompetence and the shambles D lead Muricans in?

But is the fault D entirely?

After all, Muricans voted and voted for D as their Pres , didn't they even knowing D to be a buffon and self serving and liar upon liar?
 
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j17wang

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I hope US intelligence agents who browse the forums pop in and read these too.

You don't need to hope, they already do. Sinodefense is actually quite well known in the US intelligence community as an indirect source into which they can read into insights from china's global diaspora.

What surprises me more is that I doubt our US members of the forum have had thier "come to jesus" moment when it comes to realizing thier very limited future in the US. There is more than 20% chance chinese-americans will be thrown into concentration camps before the end of this year. What i really respect about the african american community after George Floyd's callous murder at the hands of the US security forces is that they went all out protesting, and they mobilized a good chunk of the US with them. This was the one chance chinese-americans had to jump on the bandwagon when americans actually gave a shit about minorities (even if it was mostly black). YOU BLEW IT. Instead the protests died down and your now stuck powerless with more and more of your fellow americans hating you each day, as you see your rights slowly get stripped away from you.

Biden isn't going to save chinese-americans in the US, because the election is still two months away and there is plenty of time for the US under trump to keep escalating its conflict against China. Trump wants war, because the only way he can win an election when he is down over 10% nationally isnt to stop mail-in voting (thats only gonna shift the vote marginally, if at all), but rather to cancel or delay the elections outright which will certainly happen if trump gets his WWIII. Sure, lots of americans may die, but trump has already shown he doesnt care about american lives (much less the lives of chinese), he only want to hold on to power.

If you want to prevent such a future, go out and protest now, and I mean really go all out. Stop waiting for an election which may never come. At worst, you get thrown in jail or shot by police, but how much different is that from a hot war between the US and China where you will literally be the first casualties on both sides. At least if you keep up the pressure in the streets now against Trump the security forces are going to be busy dealing with internal problems. Neither futures are that great if your Chinese-american, but at least you aren't a passive bystander if your out on the streets. You are smart enough to know your still much safer facing rubber bullets from riot forces than PLA missiles streaming overhead as the US launches airstrikes against chinese cities.
 

AssassinsMace

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Simple logic will be able to draw this conclusion but the US has a propaganda narrative where the truth is poison. They want to perpetuate the idea of the police state and communists are in control of everything. There's no such thing as this being covered up at a local level because they want to believe there are Chinese agents everywhere watching even in your TikTok app that know everything. It's ironic because the US wants to stir up an Arab Spring in China but they quickly attacked Michaël Bloomberg who dared to say that even in China there's accountability by the government to the people. His critics pounced hard because they wanted to believe China is an absolute communist police state. If it was, why would the US media try to spin China's campaign against food waste is likely to spur anger and revolution in China...? In their trade war propaganda, they're trying to scare Beijing into thinking denying their Western products to the Chinese people will start a coup in China so don't do it.
 
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shanlung

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Hmmm... I wondering why Mr T never made his appearance here.

Perhaps he did not have the time, considering his plate rather full already with him being a priest, a medic, and a self styled journalist and giving interviews with himself asking himself.
 
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supersnoop

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Just a follow up to my previous post regarding sports.

This is some interesting news:
Contact tracing devices used in NFL
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"Tier 1 and Tier 2 will be with each other," Sugarman said. "Tier 3 will be the individuals that will not be able to intermix with Tier 1 and Tier 2, and if you come within 6 feet of those people your buzzer will make an alarm sound. If you come within 10 feet, it's supposed to make a light or vibrate.

This is maybe even more "draconian" than we've seen in China.
If you follow basketball, 2 players were quarantined after going too far to fetch a delivery. They literally stepped over a line. Although they tested negative, they still had to follow the rules.
 
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