Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
Trump before becoming President was notorious for being a germaphobe. He also publicly mentioned how he doesn't drink because his older brother was a drunk and died and early death to which Trump blames it on his alcoholism. He's mentioned before how he told his kids growing up not to smoke, drink, and take drugs of any kind. Add to that he's narcissist, I don't think he would take drugs that could kill him just to spite people. Lie about taking it and that's safe. Plus there are those accusations he's promoting it because the guy that makes the drug is a Trump donor and Trump is expecting favors in return.
In his book Art of the War he talks misdirection...
I think he was trying to distract from the Pompeo Saudi scandal
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
No book bragging about his business dealings needed for Trump when he's gone bankrupt several times. It's simple. He doesn't want to admit he's wrong, so he keeps promoting a drug that everyone says is dangerous. Why hasn't he injected bleach into himself or shoved a UV light up his butt and plugged himself in? Maybe because he knows those things can harm him? So he's taking a drug that everyone says is dangerous just as a precaution when he says he's not infected? Maybe a doctor told him it was okay for a person not sick to take a drug meant for sick people and provided it for him. Where's the medical authorities to take away this doctor's license? Or he's just lying.
Quickie
Colonel
Some people would bypass all their common sense in their eagerness of finding faults of other.
The thing is that the Taiwan doctors wouldn't have been in a position to find out if there were human-to-human transmission without access to the suspected patients in China.
37 countries (including China) co-signed a World Health Organization draft resolution to investigate the origins of covid19/coronavirus as well as the rampant disinformation campaigns.
The country that screamed the loudest about demanding transparency from China while hiding its own CDC data, blocking WHO investigations, refusing to be transparent about the 5 gravely sick and hospitalized us military personnel who showed up at the World Military Games in Wuhan before the outbreak, heavily redacted a lengthy report about the abrupt closure of Fort Deitrick biological weapons lab (that was involved in an American 2001 anthrax false flag - ), and had a report about a report warning of a cataclysmic event in China months before China had even identified the coronavirus. (That report was verified by Israel news sources and shared with NATO members also so it's not "fake")..
That country is not a co-signer of this draft resolution.
That country that accuses others of lacking transparency has stone-walled any investigation into any and all of its highly suspicious activities that surround this covid-19 outbreak - both in time and geography. This would not be the first time that country has behaved in such a reckless manner. Over a decade ago, it completely failed to contain, let alone notify anyone about the H1N1 virus until 6 months after the outbreak that originated in America. This American fiasco killed hundreds of thousands globally.
Those are just the facts. No conspiracy theories.
COVID-19 response - A73_CONF1Rev1-en.pdf
The country that screamed the loudest about demanding transparency from China while hiding its own CDC data, blocking WHO investigations, refusing to be transparent about the 5 gravely sick and hospitalized us military personnel who showed up at the World Military Games in Wuhan before the outbreak, heavily redacted a lengthy report about the abrupt closure of Fort Deitrick biological weapons lab (that was involved in an American 2001 anthrax false flag - ), and had a report about a report warning of a cataclysmic event in China months before China had even identified the coronavirus. (That report was verified by Israel news sources and shared with NATO members also so it's not "fake")..
That country is not a co-signer of this draft resolution.
That country that accuses others of lacking transparency has stone-walled any investigation into any and all of its highly suspicious activities that surround this covid-19 outbreak - both in time and geography. This would not be the first time that country has behaved in such a reckless manner. Over a decade ago, it completely failed to contain, let alone notify anyone about the H1N1 virus until 6 months after the outbreak that originated in America. This American fiasco killed hundreds of thousands globally.
Those are just the facts. No conspiracy theories.
COVID-19 response - A73_CONF1Rev1-en.pdf
plawolf
Lieutenant General
An subtle but critically important distinction that needs to be made clear is that this American ‘perception’ of China having ‘undue’ influence over the WHO stems from the sole fact that the WHO dared to praise China and follow China’s recommendations.
Anti-China bias is so bad in America that merely failing to bash China is seen as being in cahoots with China.
Pretty much all of Trump’s rage towards China has nothing to do with the virus, but entirely to do with the fact that China had the unforgivable audacity to actually handle this outbreak competently and effectively.
To Trump and like minded individuals, it is inconceivable that a government could act as swiftly and decisively as China did as soon as sustained human-to-human infection and fatalities was confirmed by locking down a city of 11 million people on the eve of China’s most important holiday, and then expand that to the rest of the country soon afterwards.
I remember vividly the sense of bewilderment and glee amongst western commentators at the time of the lockdown announcement, with most of them almost rolling their eyes to how much China was ‘overreacting‘, with many immediately using that to base China on ‘human rights’ grounds.
Even then there were conspiracy theories that China must know something they are not telling the world because the west would not have locked down based on the information China has provided at the time.
But what China did was pretty much straight out of the WHO’s best practice textbook on how to contain on outbreak. That is why the WHO was all praises towards China until they started getting smeared by Trump.
Your only chance is to cut the viral transmission routes as soon as possible. It would be far to late to wait until you have massive casualties to act, because by that time the virus is already out of control. Hence the key is to act as soon as you see the warning signs rather than wait for evidence to confirm your worst fears.
China followed WHO best practice and beat the virus; the west did not and is still suffering. That is why the WHO was praising China, not because of some silly conspiracy theory about Chinese infiltration of the WHO.
Intrepid
Major
I remember, too!
I also remember exactly what I was thinking in January: how lucky that the epidemic has broken out in China. No other country in the world would have taken such effective countermeasures so quickly.
Countermeasures were the essential information other countries needed at this early stage of the pandemic, when little was known about the virus: rigorous lockdown in affected cities or regions. Protect additionally selected important places such as your own capital by cordoning off and quarantine rules for travelers.
Every information was available to anyone who watched the daily news.
Just one note to begin, it’s not 37 countries, 2 of the entities are representatives of blocks of countries, namely the African block and European Union.
After skimming through the pdf, it seems to be more about actions to contain the epidemic and help to promote better health care during the epidemic... well essential what the WHO has always done. And I especially like the special mention concerning the control of misinformation and disinformation, I guess the co-signing countries should get there act together especially the one down under.
Only one clause the the second from last is about the investigation and from the text It should a standard affair and will be conducted by WHO and it read more like a boilerplate clause in contracts...
It now makes a lot of sense why the US enlisted a proxy Australia to aggressively attack China demanding a manipulated investigation. The US had no intention to agree to a fair investigation and did not want subject itself to be the target of same investigation. Australia wholeheartedly and loyally obliged to the malignant plot.
I was first not understanding why Australia was creating malicious accusation without cause.
Well, any investigation will have to be scientific and fair and it cannot be such without US and most other countries being openly subjected to same investigation.