Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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No surprise either if he did. Previous behavior suggest he contemplates about publicity stages a lot.
Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
This is beyond comprehension. Guys, some people are this visit like all visits are stage. But this one more so. Look at the patient on this photo.
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Jura The idiot
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Mr T
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Whatever you have against Taiwan politically, they're not incompetent. They've had one of the best responses globally to Covid-19, with only a small number of cases. That's down to a disciplined government/administrative response and planning ahead. There's always the possibility of more cases from a second-wave, but at least with respect to the intitial/current response they've done well.
You miss the picture in Singapore totally.
Right at the top are the political elites and their families.
Followed by their cronies such as those running the dorms.
The average Singaporeans are nothing but 4th class citizens and just a rung above the foreign slave class.
Democracy is a transmogrified form of guided democracy unimaginable to anyone not living in Singapore.
Mr T
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I wouldn't class Singapore as a democracy. It's effectively a one-party state with the theoretical mechanisms of democracy but with the system stacked in favour of the PAP. In democracies, the government normally does not respond to criticism by suing its opponents for "defamation" and subsequently bankrupting them so they can't run for office. Also, in a democracy the courts wouldn't rule in favour of the government all the time in such "defamation" cases but would throw them out.
As I think you mentioned, migrant workers in Singapore normally live in cramped conditions. Whilst the Singaporean government had a good initial response to Covid-19, they appear to have ignored the migrant workers (because, hey, they're invisible). So it got stung with infections via these groups, who by default are not going to have good access to healthcare due to cost and/or the time required to seek help (which means losing money by being off work).
P.S. Apologies if this has all been discussed before.
While I agree largely with what you said, I cannot agree with Whilst the Singaporean government had a good initial response to Covid-19, .
They had a good dog and pony show and the best razz tazz Singaporean money can buy. Which saw them wining and dining host of bodies and reports that awarded Singapore some kind of Gold Standard. Which was so farcical and nonsensical to us average Singaporeans. But lapped up and applauded by Western MSMs jumping on the band wagon to pile up even more thoroughly undeserved accolades.
Countries like Taiwan, Vietnam, Hongkong and China are the true Gold Standard in the fight against C19. They did that by sheer grit and determination and intelligence. Not by paying and buying.
Their results spoke much louder and more clearly than anything else. And they should be recognised.
Jura The idiot
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Apr 25, 2020
what's happened is 61% (456 out of 743 new cases) captured;
shows what an amateur can achieve (and I of course wish anyone did better than me!) if the assumptions hold which are
May 3, 2020
I took a closer look at the numbers (LOL of course preparing for pub talk, as pubs are expected to be reopened in May), used
and before I show the graph, I add two things:
- an important suggestion by @AndrewS to take the numbers since the beginning of strong mitigation efforts, and
- the same function I used for China (I linked the story I think yesterday, in short it worked with a caveat LOL)
- the situation was tense here around the end of March, a total lockdown was threatened if the number of cases would quickly go to 10k (and "was threatened" means "would be enforced")
- I'm going to check on Sunday, May 10
looks like I wanted to believe the narrative Apr 25, 2020 which was there wouldn't be much new cases here; an update:
in short, recently (April 26 - May 2) the daily average was 65, so my Apr 25, 2020 prediction for May 9 is too low already!
what's happened is 61% (456 out of 743 new cases) captured;
shows what an amateur can achieve (and I of course wish anyone did better than me!) if the assumptions hold which are
- strong mitigation efforts;
- extensive testing;
- no reporting issues
Many of the slaughterhouse are in rural communities in the US. The rent should be relative cheap. I could be wrong but I am not convinced that they may have to share living quarters with their colleague at work. So I am still leaning towards the slaughterhouse working environment as the source for the outbreak.
Perhaps the sharing of living quarters was a main factor for the outbreak in Germany. But that same scenario may not apply for US.
It is more likely because of unsanitary handling of meat on a conveyor line. An infectious person at the start of the line could quickly infect all subsequent workers down the conveyor line. I do not think social distancing is the answer for preventing such outbreak.
The main question is why it has not happened in other country's slaughterhouse. At least it is not reported as such.
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Nah even in the west it’s the same. Often the migrants choose to cram dozens in a house to save as much money they can.
There are many Chinese migrant workers in Australia like this. They pretty much get enslaved and often get raped. Then again people don’t learn until they get hurt.