Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

You can look at the capacity of the health system online:
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Key values from the website translatet in English

Covid 19 patients: 2688
of which 72% were ventilated

Intensive care beds: 32566
60% of them occupied

There are more reasons than just Covid-19 to need an intensive care bed


The lockdown measures are based on the health system. The federal government consults with the 16 state governments every 14 days and decides which measures are eased and which are tightened.

The health care system has not yet reached its capacity limit. Patients from Italy and France were also admitted (and I also watched patient transports from the United States and other countries). It is now being considered to re-allow planned treatments that are not related to Covid-19. At the same time, additional capacities are being created to be prepared for the so-called second wave, which experience has shown to be more severe in epidemics.

These are impressive numbers.
Covid 19 patients: 2688
of which 72% were ventilated

Intensive care beds: 32566
60% of them occupied

Looks like Germany is ready to gradually ease the lockdown as you have some extra capacity for contingencies, especially on the eastern part of the country.

Key is to avoid an overshoot on ability to cope.
 
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Air Force Brat

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These are impressive numbers.
Covid 19 patients: 2688
of which 72% were ventilated

Intensive care beds: 32566
60% of them occupied

Looks like Germany is ready to gradually ease the lockdown as you have some extra capacity for contingencies, especially on the eastern part of the country.

Yes, thankfully those of us in the Northern Hemisphere seem to be in sight of a break, and hopefully life returning to something more normal,, I'm just praying we do get a vaccine sooner rather than later, this has been an eye-opener for everybody....
 
Sometimes the infection rate goes down because there are no longer enough test kits available.

It is also interesting how many people are tested negative. Where there are enough test kits available, the rate is approximately 95%.

A number alone says nothing. Numbers must always be interpreted in context.
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(the main point is in the US not enough tests have been administered so far)
from "just a flu" period; wiki shows 353 US cases on that day so who cared huh
 

Intrepid

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Looks like Germany is ready to gradually ease the lockdown as you have some extra capacity for contingencies, especially on the eastern part of the country.
In connection with Covid-19, new rules were enacted in Germany that the federal government can influence the capacity distribution of the health system (the overview of free intensive care betts I linked is a result of this), which according to the constitution is the responsibility of the 16 states. This is to avoid overload in one area, while other areas still have free capacity.

This is not without controversy, because the countries can also determine the severity of the lockdown measures. This could create a situation where a country enjoys economic benefits due to less restrictive lockdown measures, but imposes its sick on other countries.
 

PiSigma

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I checked out milk powder on Amazon:

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This was the most economical format. 100g makes 1L of milk, and at 200$ for 6kg, it amounts to $3.33/L, whereas fresh milk costs around $1.10/L.



For some weird reason, we sell milk in bags here in Canada, but that works out well for freezing. The only issue is we have to be careful not to rip the bags.



Unfortunately I'm not so optimistic. We have yet to see the inflection point where the number of daily new cases drop. Certainly some regions are doing better than others, but here in Ontario, we've still got a long way to go.
Alberta is also not doing well. But 1/4 of our cases is related to a single meat packing plant that recently shut down. So expect beef prices to go through the roof.

Bagged milk must be a Ontario thing, only seen plastic or paper containers for it here.
 

vincent

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Alberta is also not doing well. But 1/4 of our cases is related to a single meat packing plant that recently shut down. So expect beef prices to go through the roof.

Bagged milk must be a Ontario thing, only seen plastic or paper containers for it here.
Cheaper packaging. I think Quebec has bagged milk too
 
This is not without controversy, because the countries can also determine the severity of the lockdown measures. This could create a situation where a country enjoys economic benefits due to less restrictive lockdown measures, but imposes its sick on other countries.

Yes Indeed it will be a tough balancing act to execute.

An addition concern is the fact that anti-bodies does not guarantee immunity from reinfection, Unless, if you cannot prevent travel between the countries, you can lose control and risk a second wave.

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B.I.B.

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I checked out milk powder on Amazon:

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This was the most economical format. 100g makes 1L of milk, and at 200$ for 6kg, it amounts to $3.33/L, whereas fresh milk costs around $1.10/L.



For some weird reason, we sell milk in bags here in Canada, but that works out well for freezing. The only issue is we have to be careful not to rip the bags.



Unfortunately I'm not so optimistic. We have yet to see the inflection point where the number of daily new cases drop. Certainly some regions are doing better than others, but here in Ontario, we've still got a long way to go.

Over here in N.Z .one can get 1kg bags of milk powder for $14.69, possibly $1 cheaper when on special which works out at $1.46 a litre, while fresh milk can vary from$1.76 to $2.32 a litre for premium brands.
On our farm we produce 80000 litres of milk a day when the cows are in their maximum lactating phase and yet we drive250 to 280ks depending on chosen route to buy a bag of milk powder and other essentials on a weekly basis.
 
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