Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

AssassinsMace

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Asia Times version of U.S. funding of Wuhan lab

Why US outsourced bat virus research to Wuhan
US-funded $3.7 million project approved by Trump's Covid-19 guru Dr Anthony Fauci in 2015 after US ban imposed on 'monster-germ' research
By CHRISTINA LIN
APRIL 22, 2020

The US National Institutes of Health (NIH) funded bat-coronavirus research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China to the tune of US$3.7 million, a recent article in the British newspaper Daily Mail revealed.

Back in October 2014, the US government had placed a federal moratorium on gain-of-function (GOF) research – altering natural pathogens to make them more deadly and infectious – as a result of rising fears about a possible pandemic caused by an accidental or deliberate release of these genetically engineered monster germs.

This was in part due to lab accidents at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in July 2014 that raised questions about biosafety at US high-containment labs.

At that time, the CDC had closed two labs and halted some biological shipments in the wake of several incidents in which highly pathogenic microbes were mishandled by US government laboratories: an accidental shipment of live anthrax, the discovery of forgotten live smallpox samples and a newly revealed incident in which a dangerous influenza strain was accidentally shipped from the CDC to another lab.

A CDC internal report described how scientists failed to follow proper procedures to ensure samples were inactivated before they left the lab, and also found “multiple other problems” with operating procedures in the anthrax lab.

As such in October 2014, because of public health concerns, the US government banned all federal funding on efforts to weaponize three viruses – influenza, Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).

In the face of a moratorium in the US, Dr Anthony Fauci – the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and currently the leading doctor in the US Coronavirus Task Force – outsourced in 2015 the GOF research to China’s Wuhan lab and licensed the lab to continue receiving US government funding.

The Wuhan lab is now at the center of scrutiny for possibly releasing the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus and causing the global Covid-19 pandemic.

It is understandable that the Chinese lab likely struggled with safety issues given the fact US labs share similar problems, and indeed in January 2018 the US Embassy in Beijing sent cables warning about the safety of the Wuhan lab and asked for help.

Additionally, the embassy warned that researchers “showed that various SARS-like coronaviruses can interact with ACE2, the human receptor identified for SARS-coronavirus,” meaning bat coronaviruses can be transmitted to humans to cause SARS-like diseases.

Now, the US is up in arms to hold China accountable for the global coronavirus pandemic, filing class-action lawsuits domestically, as well as building a coalition with allies internationally.

Lawsuits have been filed within the US and the International Criminal Court alleging that China used the virus as a bioweapon, and other suits are under way at the International Court of Justice. Republican lawmakers such as Senator Tom Cotton and Representative Dan Crenshaw have also introduced legislation that would allow Americans to sue China in federal court over the deaths and economic damage wrought by the virus.

US spy agencies are also investigating whether the virus originated in the Wuhan lab, and seeking evidence that is needed to support the bio-WMD theory promoted by Republican lawmakers.

If evidence is found that Covid-19 is a biological weapon, some pundits such as Fox News host Lou Dobbs have called for the US to declare war on China.

Nonetheless, it is unclear what the legal ramifications would be if the virus was indeed leaked from a Chinese lab, but as a result of a research project that was outsourced and funded by the US government.

Also, if there was a government ban in 2014 on federal funding being used for GOF research, what are the federal compliance and ethical issues surrounding the fact that the NIH still gave federal funding instead of private funding to the Wuhan lab to continue the experiments?

Hazard suits at the high-security National Biosafety Laboratory in Wuhan. Photo: Wuhan Virology Institute
Moreover, could some strains of the coronavirus have originated in US labs, given the fact the US government lifted the ban in December 2017 on GOF research without resolving lab-safety issues?

For now, President Donald Trump’s administration is investigating the $3.7 million in taxpayer money that went to the Wuhan lab, while Republican Representative Matt Gaetz called for an immediate end to NIH funding of Chinese research. Since the federal ban on GOF research has been lifted, US labs can continue creating these monster germs domestically and would no longer need to outsource to China.

Nonetheless, there still needs to be better oversight on the dangerous experiments and regulations over biosecurity of labs.

Currently, the National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity (NSABB) – a US government interagency panel that advises the NIH’s parent, the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) – conducts risk assessment of GOF experiments that pose a significant threat to public health.

The NSABB has given the HHS a framework to assess proposed research that would create pathogens with pandemic potential, such as research on genetically altering a virus to infect more species, or recreating a pathogen that has been eradicated in the wild, such as smallpox.

However, vaccine development and epidemiological surveillance do not automatically trigger an HHS review. In the postmortem of the Covid-19 pandemic, this is likely a dangerous loophole that could be exploited with no oversight, and should probably be brought under HHS review in order to protect public health better in the future.

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I'm not surprised by any of it. Classic hypocrisy. They're wondering why this lab was studying coronaviruses when they were funding it...? And none this is being reported in the US when they keep talking about the Wuhan lab. It reminds me of how President Duterte and Manny Pacquiao were criticized for their homophobic views. And where did they learn their homophobic views from...? The critics' own culture because of colonialism.
 
That decision is taken out of the hands of the people of Singapore. To call Singapore democratic is such a grotesque statement that what I say here will be in total disbelief by all so used to true democratic process you have known and taken for granted. 10 years ago, I used to say two other countries are like Singapore, Burma and North Korea. Now I can only say Singapore stand with North Korea as Burma is a lot more democratic now than 10 years ago.

Just having elections is not democracy when all other organs are dismembered and transmogrified.

Even two person together in Singapore can be grounds for prosecution for gathering to riot.

Here is a video I received that can shed some light on POFMA , the latest legal weapon crafted by the Singapore regime (Protection from Online Falsehoods and Manipulation Act. ) And in the video, he talked of the Foreign workers and C19

And in here, you have a very slight inkling on what Singaporeans are faced with in the C19 affair. Please read fast as theonlinecitizen is POFMAed and will disappear soon.

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From the video from a man brave enough to stand up , and who will be silenced very soon.
And perhaps so will I.


You obviously have issues with the Singaporean governance and I respect that. I do not have any interest in it though.
You mentioned the video talked about foreign workers and C19 and I did not find any.
Please respect my time and do not bait with falsehood.
 
while I slept, since 04:15 in the clip I link below, Pompeo about a source of the virus, quote, we don't know precisely where it started and that's, that's the core problem, end of quote:
Secretary Pompeo calls for a structural fix for the WHO, transparency from China on COVID-19 origins
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You first spoke (asked) Long term, Singaporean need to decide how their society are to effectively function.
When I did my best to answer you that Singaporeans have very very little say in the direction of their society, you then declare you got no interest in it though.

Why do you ask when you have no interest in the answer? As why Singaporeans have very little say?
Or the answer displeased you?

Especially as the dorms are all controlled by cronies of the ruling party and big money is involved?

A rhetorical question that you set up?

My question is why would Singapore as a society need so much migrant workers (representing 1/5 of population) to be able to function?
 

shanlung

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That answer I gave was so long that I had to break into 2 parts.
And I am glad that totally deleted . Because if not, you might not see me here again, and not because the mods here put the cone of shame and silence on my head.

See the latest situation in Singapore

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Within today, or by latest after thursday, Singapore (of GOLD Standard standing ) be surging pass South Korea and Japan and perhaps more in race towards China. Note that on 1 March, Singapore had just 106 C19s and 1st Apr 1000 C19s. 14 Apr 3252 C19s

and part of the reason why in
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Singapore did not get pass Japan today.
Singapore got pass South Korea

But as sure as night follow day, Singapore will get pass Japan tomorrow on her way
into European and major leagues and to catch up with China in keeping with Singapore vaunted GOLD Standard .

Do remember folks on carriers and Diamond Princess with much more personal spacing gotten 50% infection.
What about 320,000 FWs cramped and locked in the dorms as shown you be like?
What infection rate will they be getting?

Oh! the regime claiming now they spreading out the FWs into other places. Infection did not get at them before the spreading out?
The temperature checking enough to catch the infected?



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Singapore did not get pass Japan today.
Singapore got pass South Korea

But as sure as night follow day, Singapore will get pass Japan tomorrow on her way
into European and major leagues and to catch up with China in keeping with Singapore vaunted GOLD Standard .

Do remember folks on carriers and Diamond Princess with much more personal spacing gotten 50% infection.
What about 320,000 FWs cramped and locked in the dorms as shown you be like?
What infection rate will they be getting?

Oh! the regime claiming now they spreading out the FWs into other places. Infection did not get at them before the spreading out?
The temperature checking enough to catch the infected?



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This is the corona virus thread, and please for the love of MUD, quit using the phrase "GOLD STANDARD" in every post!
 
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