Jura The idiot
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because there'll be no body to test?
Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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you all got this wrong. Navarro is a fanatic China hater. he wants the US to cut all connections with China, the memo is just part of his effort. he didn't get it right by chance, because he never advised Trump to cut flights from Europe, from where America imported most of the cases.
AssassinsMace
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A broken clock is right twice a day. Ron Vara is an anti-China alarmist. He's going to believe extreme scenarios involving China all the time. You don't think he leaked his own memos to the public to look like a sage especially if Trump loses the election this November. He's hoping to salvage his post-Trump career.
SteelBird
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In my opinion, North Korea is located on a different planet and we can safely ignore it.
Jura The idiot
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still I'd be interested to know how big coverup (if there's any) Charlie pulled
Interesting, why you think that the "who is the top dog in the international relations" has any business with the "recovery from a shock caused by lack of demand " ?
The problem of every trade surplus economy won't be that how to be the top dog ,but how to survive economically and socially the huge pile of unemployed, due to the lack of demand. The USA example showing that.
Hierarchy of needs.
Thanks but that is just saying
The outbreak yes in wuhan that is clear already when wuhan reported large number of atypical pneumonia where it finally broke out but not the source of the virus where it started. It's clear any credible scientist cannot pinpoint it's source.
Even the up to now, the wuhan wet market theory is not widely confirmed as the source. Even fromm western edia
plawolf
Lieutenant General
I personally think there are massive confirmation bias on the wet market origin theory because of western obsession with trying to blame China for the outbreak.
The wet market angle has been explored and examined so comprehensively now, that if it was the true source, it would have been conclusively proven already.
I think the wet market wasn’t the actual origin, but did act as a massive incubator and supercharged the spread of the virus.
We know for a fact that COVID19 can, and have infected domesticated and big cats. We can also be fairly certain that COVID19 originated in bats, but we also know there is a missing link between bats and humans.
Based on the available evidence, I would suggest that a domesticated or semi-feral cat is a seriously likely candidate for this missing link.
It is entirely possible a cat caught an infected bat and was in turn infected. It could have then passed the infection on to its owner, and/or to other animals at the wet market as it patrolled its territory/scavenged for food.
That could explain why the first known infected person had no connection to the wet market.
But the wet markets still need to be massively reformed.
The sale of live animals for consumption should be banned outright in all urban areas. If you want to eat something, you have to buy it dead and packaged.
The focus on exotic animals is wrong and does not fundamentally address the root reason of why wet markets are dangerous in terms of pandemic spread - the mixing of large numbers of humans and live animals.
Jura The idiot
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just to show members from America and the Far East what kind of - the EU is (I guess the members from Europe might already notice):
recently (at the point when France, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands have 2k+ dead) the EU - tried to coordinate (the newspeak is "roadmap"),
and the countries which have taken the COVID-19 seriously much earlier, and don't have thousands dead, but tens or hundreds dead,
were kind of criticized by - EU!?
and guess what, less than one month ago (I quote from ), now I noticed ironically it was on Friday the 13th:
“Certain controls may be justified, but general travel bans are not seen as being the most effective by the World Health Organization,” Ms von der Leyen told reporters. “Moreover, they have a strong social and economic impact, they disrupt people’s lives and business across the borders.”
recently (at the point when France, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands have 2k+ dead) the EU - tried to coordinate (the newspeak is "roadmap"),
and the countries which have taken the COVID-19 seriously much earlier, and don't have thousands dead, but tens or hundreds dead,
were kind of criticized by - EU!?
and guess what, less than one month ago (I quote from ), now I noticed ironically it was on Friday the 13th:
“Certain controls may be justified, but general travel bans are not seen as being the most effective by the World Health Organization,” Ms von der Leyen told reporters. “Moreover, they have a strong social and economic impact, they disrupt people’s lives and business across the borders.”
