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When I was in college, I used to have classmates driving around in their pickups with their rifles on a rack fixed to the rear window... I think they banned that sometime ago...
Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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When I was in college, I used to have classmates driving around in their pickups with their rifles on a rack fixed to the rear window... I think they banned that sometime ago...
How are they allowed to operate so recklessly?
Because despite what the Western media tried very hard to portray, China is not a totalitarian state
Thanks for the CV location list -- which I didn't know before. The deployment history shows that USS Roosevelt embarked from San Diego on Jan17, and had a port of call at Guam from Feb7 to Feb10. After discovering COVID on the ship, it returned to Guan on Mar27.
So, the Roosevelt sailors were either infected at San Diego before Jan17, or got infected at Guam in Feb7-Feb10. Did Guam report COVID cases that occurred before the Roosevelt's February port of call? (If so, where did those Guam cases come from?) If Guam didn't report COVID cases, then we must conclude that the virus was present at the San Diego base in mid January or earlier. And if it was in San Diego, when did it get there, and where did it come from?
This is indeed a very interesting case, since the carrier's deployment history gives us precise dates for isolating when the virus got on board the ship. And more broadly, it can fill in the timeline for COVID cases on US territory.
duncanidaho
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First reported case in Guam on 15th March 2020.
Hendrik_2000
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There are so much grimm news these days I try not to post here out of respect to the departed and does not want to appear gloating. But there are uplifting and inspirational story to show the goodness of human being regardless of race and culture. Here is one of them this is just excerpt for complete story read WSJ. In the absence of central governemnt lead states are forced to find their own supply using connection, bussiness partner, and their own ingenuity to source and transport much needed medical supply here is one of them the state of Massachusset
Patriots' plane ferries a million masks to U.S. from China
April 2, 2020, 7:23 AM CDT
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Get ready to root for the New England Patriots. Seriously.
In , the Patriots’ team plane—emblazoned with the team logo, Lombardi trophies and a gargantuan “6X” to commemorate the team’s Super Bowl wins—became the focus of a humanitarian effort that brought more than a million masks into the United States for the fight against COVID-19.
States are attempting to acquire necessary personal protective equipment to battle the coronavirus pandemic, and one of the most essential items is N95 masks, necessary to protect the health of medical professionals fighting the spread of the virus and caring for those affected. Massachusetts located caches of masks in China; the question was, how to get them to America?
The Patriots' plane in a 2019 file photo. (Photo by Pat Greenhouse/The Boston Globe via Getty Images)
: Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker struck a deal to obtain more than a million masks from Chinese manufacturers, but he needed to get them from China to Massachusetts, and fast. Baker called on Jonathan Kraft, son of Patriots owner Robert Kraft, and the younger Kraft in turn pressed the team’s plane into service. The Kraft family also agreed to pay $2 million, or about half the cost of the estimated 1.7 million masks.
Logistical problems remained. The Patriots’ Boeing 767 is a passenger plane, not meant to carry cargo. And it generally only travels as far as Los Angeles or Seattle; a trip to China would require modifications and enhancements.
The crew would be permitted to stay on the ground for three hours, no more, and would not be quarantined. But they would need visas, so the crew had to run to a pharmacy in Wilmington, Ohio, to get photos while the plane was getting upgrades. After an expedited visa process, the crew was off to Alaska to prepare for the trip to China.
During this time, a Chinese crew mobilized by tech company Tencent collected, inspected and counted the masks. The plane landed on Wednesday morning, East Coast time, and crews loaded up the plane with 1.2 million masks — all that could fit in the plane’s cargo hold.
Cheers to the entire New England franchise on a job done well, done right, done quickly. But what else would you expect from the Patriots?
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Patriots' plane ferries a million masks to U.S. from China
April 2, 2020, 7:23 AM CDT
Scroll back up to restore default view.
Get ready to root for the New England Patriots. Seriously.
In , the Patriots’ team plane—emblazoned with the team logo, Lombardi trophies and a gargantuan “6X” to commemorate the team’s Super Bowl wins—became the focus of a humanitarian effort that brought more than a million masks into the United States for the fight against COVID-19.
States are attempting to acquire necessary personal protective equipment to battle the coronavirus pandemic, and one of the most essential items is N95 masks, necessary to protect the health of medical professionals fighting the spread of the virus and caring for those affected. Massachusetts located caches of masks in China; the question was, how to get them to America?
The Patriots' plane in a 2019 file photo. (Photo by Pat Greenhouse/The Boston Globe via Getty Images)
: Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker struck a deal to obtain more than a million masks from Chinese manufacturers, but he needed to get them from China to Massachusetts, and fast. Baker called on Jonathan Kraft, son of Patriots owner Robert Kraft, and the younger Kraft in turn pressed the team’s plane into service. The Kraft family also agreed to pay $2 million, or about half the cost of the estimated 1.7 million masks.
Logistical problems remained. The Patriots’ Boeing 767 is a passenger plane, not meant to carry cargo. And it generally only travels as far as Los Angeles or Seattle; a trip to China would require modifications and enhancements.
The crew would be permitted to stay on the ground for three hours, no more, and would not be quarantined. But they would need visas, so the crew had to run to a pharmacy in Wilmington, Ohio, to get photos while the plane was getting upgrades. After an expedited visa process, the crew was off to Alaska to prepare for the trip to China.
During this time, a Chinese crew mobilized by tech company Tencent collected, inspected and counted the masks. The plane landed on Wednesday morning, East Coast time, and crews loaded up the plane with 1.2 million masks — all that could fit in the plane’s cargo hold.
From there, the masks were flown to Boston. Robert Kraft designated 300,000 to be sent on to New York — so much for an AFC East rivalry — with the hope of helping healthcare workers in New York’s ravaged hospitals.
Cheers to the entire New England franchise on a job done well, done right, done quickly. But what else would you expect from the Patriots?
____
superdog
Junior Member
Some “liberal” media are simply allowed in China, though I feel most of them are inevitably contaminated with the bias from western MSM.
Caixin weekly's recent cover has been causing controversy too:
Which was edited from stock photo, protraying the "China virus":
There are so much grimm news these days I try not to post here out of respect to the departed and does not want to appear gloating. But there are uplifting and inspirational story to show the goodness of human being regardless of race and culture. Here is one of them this is just excerpt for complete story read WSJ. In the absence of central governemnt lead states are forced to find their own supply using connection, bussiness partner, and their own ingenuity to source and transport much needed medical supply here is one of them the state of Massachusset
Patriots' plane ferries a million masks to U.S. from China
April 2, 2020, 7:23 AM CDT
Scroll back up to restore default view.
Get ready to root for the New England Patriots. Seriously.
In , the Patriots’ team plane—emblazoned with the team logo, Lombardi trophies and a gargantuan “6X” to commemorate the team’s Super Bowl wins—became the focus of a humanitarian effort that brought more than a million masks into the United States for the fight against COVID-19.
States are attempting to acquire necessary personal protective equipment to battle the coronavirus pandemic, and one of the most essential items is N95 masks, necessary to protect the health of medical professionals fighting the spread of the virus and caring for those affected. Massachusetts located caches of masks in China; the question was, how to get them to America?
The Patriots' plane in a 2019 file photo. (Photo by Pat Greenhouse/The Boston Globe via Getty Images)
: Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker struck a deal to obtain more than a million masks from Chinese manufacturers, but he needed to get them from China to Massachusetts, and fast. Baker called on Jonathan Kraft, son of Patriots owner Robert Kraft, and the younger Kraft in turn pressed the team’s plane into service. The Kraft family also agreed to pay $2 million, or about half the cost of the estimated 1.7 million masks.
Logistical problems remained. The Patriots’ Boeing 767 is a passenger plane, not meant to carry cargo. And it generally only travels as far as Los Angeles or Seattle; a trip to China would require modifications and enhancements.
The crew would be permitted to stay on the ground for three hours, no more, and would not be quarantined. But they would need visas, so the crew had to run to a pharmacy in Wilmington, Ohio, to get photos while the plane was getting upgrades. After an expedited visa process, the crew was off to Alaska to prepare for the trip to China.
During this time, a Chinese crew mobilized by tech company Tencent collected, inspected and counted the masks. The plane landed on Wednesday morning, East Coast time, and crews loaded up the plane with 1.2 million masks — all that could fit in the plane’s cargo hold.
From there, the masks were flown to Boston. Robert Kraft designated 300,000 to be sent on to New York — so much for an AFC East rivalry — with the hope of helping healthcare workers in New York’s ravaged hospitals.
Cheers to the entire New England franchise on a job done well, done right, done quickly. But what else would you expect from the Patriots?
____
Robert Kraft has a lot of "Chinese Friends", if you know the (other) story, lol.
Jokes aside, the story says he paid for half of the cost of the masks personally ($2 million for 1.2m masks), so that works out to be about $3.33 per mask. Pretty good price, must have other Chinese connections besides the ones at the spa.
In another article he was quoted as saying he had never encountered so much red tape before. Normally all these regulations are put in place to protect people, but think about how someone even with this many resources (a company wide-body jet!), can't easily overcome it.
Couple more stories on Marbury (If you can't tell, I am a sports fan)
I like these "man on the ground" kind of stories because they are usually non-political. From the above, It would seem his $2.75/mask is probably legit.
Marbury on masks: (similar to the argument here)
Intrepid
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It is all a question of the real figure. Suppose Covid-19 kills 1% of those infected. Assume 11 days pass from the positive test to death. Then we have to compare the current number of deaths with the number of infected people 11 days ago. In Germany this is 4%. That said, Germany actually has four times more infected people than were tested.
Italy has twenty times more infected people than have been tested.
UK has forty times more infected people than have been tested.
In the United States, the number was 50 times a week ago. Now it levels off at fifteen to twenty times because testing is now much more intensive.
Italy has twenty times more infected people than have been tested.
UK has forty times more infected people than have been tested.
In the United States, the number was 50 times a week ago. Now it levels off at fifteen to twenty times because testing is now much more intensive.