Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Phoenix_Rising

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A weird thing could only happen under quarantineo_O

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Yesterday (Mar. 14) 8:50pm, in Huangpi District of Wuhan, local community residents witnessed a hearse unloading groceries and reported it in the Wechat group.
The District Party Committee, along with the Discipline Inspection Commission rushed into investigation.
Within a day they found it was Lyu, a contractor of local public mortuary, misused the hearse to deliver goods for his/her relative named Chen.
Since the goods and van were all at Lyu's private expense, Lyu didn't commit any crime and walked out freely, just lost his contract and need to take the liability for breach it.
However, Ao Hao, the director of local funeral and interment administration got discharged and put under party discipline investigation. Deputy of local civil affair bureau is also under investigation, but keeps his office.

What a genius idea to bypass the quarantine law, just at the cost of a "tiny" bit of social anxiety.
 
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shanlung

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Report from a recovery of covid 19.
That you know what it be should you be in a worse case , and recovered.
Provided your hospitial not flooded with thousands and you not triaged to be left out.


My COVID-19 Encounter (Case 37)

I have been in the Hotel Management for 30 years and ended my contract last September 2019 in China. When the Corona virus outbreak started in China, I was delighted that I am in Singapore although I have been jobless for a few months. While looking for next suitable job, I foreseen that a Private Driving Licence may come in handy if not for now, in later years when I retired. So I began driving a rented car for a short term period of one month from 8th Jan this year after completing the course.

When Singapore confirmed the first case of Corona Virus on 23rd Jan, everyone reminded me repeatedly to wear a mask for precaution. In my mind, it is more difficult to strike lottery than contacting the virus.

On 30th Jan, I had a slight cough and like many other times, bought a bottle a cough mixture hoping it will go away soon. Four days later it developed into slight fever and I decided to pay the clinic a visit and was treated as normal flu by the doctor. On the 6th Feb, the fever went roller coaster and did not completely subside. I decided I should get a second opinion at Ng Tng Fong Hospital A&E where I was admitted for various tests.

Next day on 7th afternoon I was diagnosed to have contacted Corona Virus! Due to the seriousness I was informed by the doctor that they will insert a tube in my throat and I will be paraylsed by medication. I have no idea what I would be expecting and the next 8 days were my darkest day of my life!

When I regained consciousness (partially), I felt my hands were strapped in two electronic hand gloves which totally restricted my movement. Besides, I do not remember that I able to open my eyes to at least glance around the room I was in. I can hear the doctor and nurse while they checked on me but I could not speak a word. Under the influence of medication, I have illusions and heard music playing, people talking, beer cheering and I imagined that I could be in a hotel room converted facility due to shortage of hospital beds. I never feel so lost and unsecured in my life! I felt life is so vulnerable and I am so worried about my families, relatives and friends who had in contact with me prior.

Eventually on Valentine’s day, I able to open my eyes and found myself in a double glass doors room with all the life supporting equipment surrounding me. The tube earlier mentioned is actually a large piece of plastic in my month with a tube leading to the lung, opening my air passage which had restricted my speech. I can visibly see the Nurse Counter right outside my room with everyone on the move.

Few hours later, a doctor in full protection gears, N95 mask, Eye goggle, yellow plastic coat, surgical gloves (almost not able to tell one from another) entered. I was told that I am recovering fast and will remove my tube later in the day. Pointing at the monitor, once oxygen saturation level reaches 95 and I will be transferred out of ICU to isolation ward. Noting my head is all I can do and involuntarily my tear rolled down on both side of my cheek. This nightmare is finally over for me!

My 92 years old mother who is staying with me? My Siblings? Are they with me in the Hospital? All these questions jumped to mind instantly.

The clock on the wall is ticking but it is not for the purpose to tell you the present time cause the time was passing very, very slowly. My guess is to psychologically slow down the pace and anxiety of the patients.

Three to Four hours later, a doctor and a nurse came in through the double glass doors to administer the removal of my tube. At the moment it was removed, I almost throw out at the utterly undescribable discomfort. Then I was again reminded to breath in deeply to improve my oxygen level.
Staring at the monitor, oxygen level showing 92, I devoted my focus fully on my oxygen intake aiming to get out of ICU as soon. This is my most discipline self I ever know myself, breathing enormously non-stop through the night without sleep and by next morning, the 96 reading is all I have hoped for.

While I was relieved with the result of my hard work, suddenly a familiar face appeared outside the glass door! My god! Is my dear daughter! The phone rang and she was on the other side of the line. I was so thankful to the hospital administration process allowing family members to visit once we become conscious (although only one time). All worries were answered to find all my families and relatives who were under quarantined because of me will be cleared in just a daytime! My tear rolled down once again. One at a time, my 20 years married ex-wife spoke with me next after my daughter left. I was told many relatives and friends are praying for me, my dear son donated to a temple for my well beings and all have been following closely on my development in ICU. I am so thankful to all my families, relatives and friends during this period of time while I am fighting the virus. It is during crisis that the display of humanity warmed my hearts.

Couple of hours later on the same day, a senior doctor with full protection gears entered and broke the wonderful news that I will be transferred out of ICU to 6th floor isolation ward later today.

As I am penning down my encounter, it is my 15thday in the isolation ward which is another room with double glass doors and private bathroom. On the first three days here, I was not allowed to leave my bed, still hooked on oxygen supply and liquid food through drip. Soon on the 4th day, I was given solid food instead and had my first bath (myself) since I admitted. The following day, my oxygen supply was removed. I felt I have recovered and physically fit again!

Just as I am getting better, a doctor approached me and asked for my participation in their research of CONVID-19 virus which I agreed with no hesitation thinking how it will benefit many in Singapore and the world against this widely spread virus.

Three days ago, another doctor came to me from ICU who he said to have received my transfer from Ng Teng Fong Hospital to Tan Tock Seng Hospital in the middle of the night on the 7th Feb. A TTSH doctor will be writing a case study of me which will be published in medical journal worldwide and request for my consent. Maintaining the same motivation of benefiting the world, I signed the consent form instantly.

Based on the established medical procedures; no fever, normal blood pressure, regular oxygen saturation level, improved lung function, Hospital begins to do nose swab test paving for my discharge. Nose swab test can detect any virus in the body which is transmittable. All patients discharged had to achieve two consecutive negative tests.

My first test started on the 21st Feb if I remembered correctly but results were all positive until 27th Feb, a long waited negative result came. Unfortunately, 28th Feb result was disheartening. Today is the 1stMarch, I achieved negative test result on the 29th Feb yesterday. If today result is negative again, MOH will be consulted to obtain green light from them for my discharge which could happen even tonight.

Whether the discharge is today or in the next few days, I could not go without mentioning the frontline fighters in ICU, doctors and nurses at the isolation ward for their caring and encouraging approach towards me. Nothing is too much burden for them so long you ask. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart! ❤❤
 

FangYuan

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First, the Covid-19 view is that biological weapons start from the USA. They sought every excuse to humiliate China. Of course 99% of Chinese people do not care about the Yankee But 1% will be angry and try to retaliate by asking the opposite issue "Covid-19 is a US biological weapon to destroy China". I believe that all rational people understand that Covid 19 is an accident, but the emotions of most people have invaded reason.
 

zgx09t

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Elaborate on this more. Washing your hand too much affects the PH levels of your skin?

Irritant contact dermatitis

There might be thousands of quick internet sources available to you if you are interested, but here is one from CDC website.
Too much of a good thing itself is not all that good. Your somewhat damaged skin without the native friendly bacteria colonies can be defenseless to other unfriendly nasty microbes.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 

ougoah

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I haven't been reading the twenty or so posts added here every day but has anyone else arrived at the conclusion that COVID-19 has been spreading at least in the US or wherever (including China or any country) since early or mid 2019?

Let's examine some facts:

1. The seafood wetmarket in Wuhan that also does sell snake and pangolin (live) has not yet detected COVID-19 in any of the animals after Wuhan's shutdown. Sure it could have been covered up (although why? especially when CCP itself has not even argued the possibility of this being the cause) or the infected animal/s processed and purchased already. But as far as I'm aware, all academic papers or post COVID research has shown that snakes and pangolins are not yet naturally carrying or accepting COVID-19 from bats or any other animal! and they are not only not carriers, there's also no way to show they can even spread it to humans even if they could carry COVID-19, which they can't. So yeah the whole markets theory is scientifically proven false.

2. The US reported abnormally high cold and flu infection cases in 2019 and abnormally high deaths attributed to flu and flu caused diseases like pneumonia.

3. The US supplied what the US itself described as faulty test kits and later on covered up all testing results along with recorded numbers of infections. Why would they do this? An official nation wide cover up to make the whole situation inside the US more opaque than the worst of CCP days.

4. Jack Ma, under instruction from CCP perhaps, is donating free of charge thousands of test kits (in just one first offer wave) to the US, probably in the hopes they will test and see their ridiculously high infection numbers for themselves.

5. US doctors have spoken up on social medias claiming their suspicions of early COVID-19 in USA since many patients had X-ray scans that read like what COVID-19 does to one's lungs and lab tests of throat swabs and other indicators returned negative for all known viral flu causes.

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So all these thousands upon thousands of extra abnormal "flu" infections and deaths from something that returns negative for flu yet exhibits similar lung X-rays as COVID-19... hmmmmmm

6. Chinese diplomat tweets imploring the US to be transparent about how many infections they have and the results of testing for COVID-19 along with more transparency of Trump meetings ... more of a propaganda move to pull down the false facade of US freedom and transparency. There isn't freedom and it isn't any more transparent! It's all a matter of circumstance rather than philosophy now! The purpose of this move is to show the US that the CCP knows a bit more about the nature of this virus than they have offered and perhaps knows the extent of US involvement or at least US spread before Wuhan Dec 2019 was a thing.

What do you get when you put all the facts of the puzzle together? There is more to this COVID-19 story than a simple (scientifically iffy) suggestion that a country with no tradition of consuming bats, caught COVID-19 from a bat soup that was consumed in Palau Malaysia... also no cases in countries that actually consume bats in higher numbers. That's of course not to say Chinese people don't have a WIDE meat menu and most probably shouldn't keep such a wide meat menu especially given how interconnected people are these days and the high density cities we have too. At least without very costly and a well maintained regulatory infrastructure in place along with proper enforcement and checks. This is unlikely for where China is today, so maybe keeping the crazy range of meats off markets should be done regardless. SARS and Ebola should be enough lesson for the entire world especially high density countries with relatively lax meat supply chain infrastructure and laws. India doesn't have this stuff because they don't have a wide meat menu.

I think there's a chance the US leadership detected COVID-19 in continental USA well before December 2019 and continue to keep it hushed which explains points 2 to 6. They just didn't have quite as high an infection rate due to warmer weather before December in Wuhan and never had Wuhan's density or travel movement. It could have spread from China earlier, it could have spread from country X. This has nothing to do with where it originated despite some evidence it was in the US before December 2019.
 
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I haven't been reading the twenty or so posts added here every day but has anyone else arrived at the conclusion that COVID-19 has been spreading at least in the US or wherever (including China or any country) since early or mid 2019?

Let's examine some facts:

1. The seafood wetmarket in Wuhan that also does sell snake and pangolin (live) has not yet detected COVID-19 in any of the animals after Wuhan's shutdown. Sure it could have been covered up (although why? especially when CCP itself has not even argued the possibility of this being the cause) or the infected animal/s processed and purchased already. But as far as I'm aware, all academic papers or post COVID research has shown that snakes and pangolins are not yet naturally carrying or accepting COVID-19 from bats or any other animal! and they are not only not carriers, there's also no way to show they can even spread it to humans even if they could carry COVID-19, which they can't. So yeah the whole markets theory is scientifically proven false.

2. The US reported abnormally high cold and flu infection cases in 2019 and abnormally high deaths attributed to flu and flu caused diseases like pneumonia.

3. The US supplied what the US itself described as faulty test kits and later on covered up all testing results along with recorded numbers of infections. Why would they do this? An official nation wide cover up to make the whole situation inside the US more opaque than the worst of CCP days.

4. Jack Ma, under instruction from CCP perhaps, is donating free of charge thousands of test kits (in just one first offer wave) to the US, probably in the hopes they will test and see their ridiculously high infection numbers for themselves.

5. US doctors have spoken up on social medias claiming their suspicions of early COVID-19 in USA since many patients had X-ray scans that read like what COVID-19 does to one's lungs and lab tests of throat swabs and other indicators returned negative for all known viral flu causes.

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So all these thousands upon thousands of extra abnormal "flu" infections and deaths from something that returns negative for flu yet exhibits similar lung X-rays as COVID-19... hmmmmmm

6. Chinese diplomat tweets imploring the US to be transparent about how many infections they have and the results of testing for COVID-19 along with more transparency of Trump meetings ... more of a propaganda move to pull down the false facade of US freedom and transparency. There isn't freedom and it isn't any more transparent! It's all a matter of circumstance rather than philosophy now! The purpose of this move is to show the US that the CCP knows a bit more about the nature of this virus than they have offered and perhaps knows the extent of US involvement or at least US spread before Wuhan Dec 2019 was a thing.

What do you get when you put all the facts of the puzzle together? There is more to this COVID-19 story than a simple (scientifically iffy) suggestion that a country with no tradition of consuming bats, caught COVID-19 from a bat soup that was consumed in Palau Malaysia... also no cases in countries that actually consume bats in higher numbers. That's of course not to say Chinese people don't have a WIDE meat menu and most probably shouldn't keep such a wide meat menu especially given how interconnected people are these days and the high density cities we have too. At least without very costly and a well maintained regulatory infrastructure in place along with proper enforcement and checks. This is unlikely for where China is today, so maybe keeping the crazy range of meats off markets should be done regardless. SARS and Ebola should be enough lesson for the entire world especially high density countries with relatively lax meat supply chain infrastructure and laws. India doesn't have this stuff because they don't have a wide meat menu.

I think there's a chance the US leadership detected COVID-19 in continental USA well before December 2019 and continue to keep it hushed which explains points 2 to 6. They just didn't have quite as high an infection rate due to warmer weather before December in Wuhan and never had Wuhan's density or travel movement. It could have spread from China earlier, it could have spread from country X. This has nothing to do with where it originated despite some evidence it was in the US before December 2019.


begs the question when will US be transparent and credibly investigate possible US origin for this virus and publicly publish those findings. Why did WH classify deliberation on CoronaVirus rendering it top secret topic?
 
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ougoah

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Obviously I'm not suggesting conspiracies here where the US started this or was country 0 with patient 0 or was the origin of a lab grown COVID-19. For all we know, it could even have been a Chinese lab grown bio-weapon which the US has kept publicly quiet about for a multitude of reasons. China did sort of act surprisingly quickly despite some pathetically inaccurate and sensational media coverage claiming they didn't and tried to cover it up... yes a Wuhan official did try to not alert higher up CCP officials due to the city standards competition living standards thingo they care so much about. The guy was caught and fired for that. If you check timelines, CCP acted within days and made announcements and sequenced DNA and published all pretty quickly. Also sealed off Wuhan before deaths got to double figures and Hubei shortly after.

Anyway these rabbit hole dwelling ideas aside, I think everyone should know that the facts above fit together and offer us an answer to two important and intriguing questions:

1. Why on Earth for the love of all that is good and holy, has the USA, self proclaimed beacon of freedom (of information too) and transparency, decided to be the only country to make all information and records on their COVID-19 infection patterns and rates confidential???????????

2. Why has a higher up CCP official made the unprecedented move to call out the US in a tweet? CCP has never pointed fingers before without holding something substantial or knowing something for certain. Even back when SARS came out and theories from multiple nations proclaimed US bioweapon, CCP did NOT formally call out the US or even hinted at something fishy.

Clearly CCP knows the US had plenty of COVID-19 patients and spread well before December 2019.
 
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