In the rest of China (outside of Hubei) - it's over.
Inside Hubei, they probably need a few more weeks.
And they'll still have restrictions inside Hubei for a few weeks afterwards
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In the rest of China (outside of Hubei) - it's over.
Inside Hubei, they probably need a few more weeks.
And they'll still have restrictions inside Hubei for a few weeks afterwards
Unfortunately no. About a week ago some idiot from Zhengzhou (where Foxconn's vast factories are) flew to Italy via a third country to watch football and returned to China via the same third country just before the lockdown in Northern Italy. He withheld information about his stay in Italy from the authorities and then took high speed rail and Zhengzhou metro. The city tracked him down after he paid a visit to the pharmacy. He tested positive. The entire city is now in panic.
The idiot is now under criminal investigation.
You have to expect some idiots slipping through.
But as South Korea demonstrates, it should still be containable, even without a total lockdown.
We'll have a better idea in 2weeks time.
So China should be able to use the same approach.
Yes, I remember when Dr. Li passed away, the news mentioned he had been put on ECMO in his last hours, and someone on Twitter was like 'What? they are using ECMO?". I felt that's the time when that person finally started to take COVID-19 seriously.
I don't know if any Western media has a China-based science reporter, despite China being the no.2 scientific power. So it's not surprising they all treat COVID-19 as a political or economic matter - that's the only thing their journalists knew how to report.
A couple weeks ago I begun to notice that I had never seen a Western journalist asking questions during the daily briefings of the National Health Commission. All of them were instead asking political questions at the Foreign Ministry briefings. I was like 'seriously? do they know this is potentially an pandemic and their readers at home may actually benefit from knowing about, you know, how the control/treatment efforts are going?'. I hope after all this is said and done some of those journalists would reflect on their misguided reporting priorities during the outbreak. But I guess they will just find a way to blame China for their mistakes.
All China-based journalists must know that they are supposed to serve the interests of their readers, not to serve the interests of Chinese dissidents.
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I believe most of the studies simply show that they can find live virus on those surfaces.
I would imagine a more careful study would involve smearing a known amount of a virus on a surface and measure how many virus can stay alive as a function of time, temperature, humidity, UV intensity, etc. I’m almost certain these studies exist. Since I’m not in the field of virology or microbiology, I haven’t personally read any of these studies.
Another key link would be, even if you find live virus on a surface, is it still enough to cause any harm to human? For any virus to be effective, their numbers are important. I’m sure people have done studies on other viruses before. How much of that can be applied to the COVID-19 is unknown.
Oh well my university just announced the cancellation of all in-person classes. I have been following COVID-19 since mid-January. By mid-February I had realized we would have to switch to distant learning before the end of the current semester. Yet I still haven't made any preparation for online teaching. I guess I'm just very human, like most world leaders.
Time for the heads to start rolling.
They should use the death penalty if anyone dies because of him.