Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Hadoren

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Why are so many fanboys here upset about China's decision to open up and return to normalcy? Cases are now zero. In fact, I am confident that China will never have another COVID case in the future. Meanwhile less than 100 people have died.

Under the long lockdowns, China had tens of thousands of cases and an exponential increase in COVID. It also had a brand spanking new color revolution. After China returned to normalcy, cases fell to zero, China achieved permanent Zero COVID, and the color revolution threat immediately disappeared.

Returning to normalcy obviously works.
 
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daifo

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This is one area that confuses me. I get not reporting COVID cases anymore, since its kind of pointless now with no PCR testing. Above all, based on testimonials in China, most people nowadays self-quarantine immediately after testing positive on a home test kit or getting a fever and just assuming they have COVID. I don't get why they can't report deaths though, with 10% of the population unvaccinated that's still 140 million people, so one would think releasing the statistics would incentivize the remaining population to get the shots and give people a clearer picture on what's going on.

They don't even have to report the true deaths if the numbers are terrible, just something that is sorta realistic with the obvious increase in "funerals", like 100s of deaths a day contributed to complications from covid. I have said it before over and over, the "propaganda" or marketing department is completely incompetent. Something i feel everyone would accept was just telling the near truth:

"Zero covid is impossible to maintain as Covid-19 has become increasingly contagious, however it is also less deadly for the vaccinated/boosted. That does not mean there will be no deaths as tens of thousands of people with comorbidity may still perish in the year ahead. We will implement a campaign to further vaccinate and boost the population, while also building up supplies of medicine, mask, and clinics etc...."

Anyways, for a quick laugh...
I saw an Indian news item on youtube, they are broadcasting about China's million of infections and coverup of deaths while showing the India stats of single digit deaths and 100 infection per a day.
 
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tokenanalyst

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There are two kind of people, COVID maximaxxers and COVID minimaxxers, guys like Eric Feigl-Ding are covid maximaxxers, they want you to be afraid of this virus all year long. What they are scare the most of China ending zero COVID is that once China return to "normal" the pandemic will be officially "over" like we predicted here in this thread, All restrictions and COVID measures will be lifted and scale down globally.
Lets be clear unless a miracle vaccine appears SARS-COV-2 is never is going to go away, will stay forever as long it can find a host. We are going to do the same the we do with most pathogens since ever, pretend that they don't exist. Every year hundred of millions are going to get infected and hundred of thousands will keep dying, bad seasons, good seasons and between. But we are going to say living with this pathogens "is part of life" and maybe it is.
Personally if Omicron specific vaccines appears and better if those are nasal spray vaccines I will take it, in the high COVID-Flu season I would keep using mask in certain places not to protect myself but a least try to protect those who are immune compromised to this kind of pathogens. For you people, do as you wish.

They don't even have to report the true deaths if the numbers are terrible, just something that is sorta realistic with the obvious increase in "funerals", like 100s of deaths a day contributed to complications from covid. I have said it before over and over, the "propaganda" or marketing department is completely incompetent. Something i feel everyone would accept was just telling the near truth:

"Zero covid is impossible to maintain as Covid-19 has become increasingly contagious, however it is also less deadly for the vaccinated/boosted. That does not mean there will be no deaths as tens of thousands of people with comorbidity may still perish in the year ahead. We will implement a campaign to further vaccinate and boost the population, while also building up supplies of medicine, mask, and clinics etc...."

Anyways, for a quick laugh...
I saw an Indian news item on youtube, they are broadcasting about China's million of infections and coverup of deaths while showing the India stats of single digit deaths and 100 infection per a day.
Like I said again and again and again is this thread, you can view my history, once China let this virus spread there are not going to be numbers. I said "If you have a parent and is not vaccinated, I recommend to get them vaccinated, if they died, they will not even be part of statistics"
 

Quan8410

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Cannot wait until the thread is completely closed. Covid 19 is just a matter of media warfare now but China simply don't give a fuck lol. After Chinese new year, nobody will give a damn about all media fearmongering, just like how many articles about Chinese "hard landing" in the past. People just care about Covid coz it is China.
 

supercat

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The Chinese government put an end of reporting infections and deaths.
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Some clarification, the NHC is just simply handling the job of publishing COVID data to the CDC.

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Yes, now the Chinese CDC will report the data. The following links are in Chinese. I haven't been able to find English ones yet.

Daily cases:
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Daily vaccinations:
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KYli

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Yes, now the Chinese CDC will report the data. The following links are in Chinese. I haven't been able to find English ones yet.

Daily cases:
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Guess Bloomberg and many MSM need to do another report of Chinese CDC is taking over reporting cases of deaths and infections.

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Bellum_Romanum

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Why are so many fanboys here upset about China's decision to open up and return to normalcy? Cases are now zero. In fact, I am confident that China will never have another COVID case in the future. Meanwhile less than 100 people have died.

Under the long lockdowns, China had tens of thousands of cases and an exponential increase in COVID. It also had a brand spanking new color revolution. After China returned to normalcy, cases fell to zero, China achieved permanent Zero COVID, and the color revolution threat immediately disappeared.

Returning to normalcy obviously works.
Any loss of lives let alone Chinese lives ought to be a very sad event for anyone including yourself Chinese or not. Unless of course the only thing we give a shit about is the geopolitics of our time and paying lip service to human lives as nothing but unfortunate statistics. That's just callous and barbaric and that's not how I function, am not implying or remotely suggesting you're indifferent to Chinese death.

Having said all of that, there's no one disputing here that China had to open up since the people in general has had enough being essentially contained within their already considerable small spaces. Not to mention the economic toll, social upheaval, family issues from the personal to the professional.

The issue I find is with the usual idiots and suspects that loves to come out of their homework hibernation plastering every social media and forums like this one with the usual anti-China, anti-government B.s. The Chinese government is being held to a standard that's frankly no other government or political institutions can rise up to. Wuhan flare up = CPC about to collapse, massive cover up, more cases are underreported, mass deaths hidden etc.... When all of that were proven objectively to be untrue and the scourge of Covid-19 went worldwide. China, the government and it's people were used as the main culprits from disgusting accusations of bat eating, Wuhan lab leaked theory, bio attack against America, worst 5G induced virus caused by Huawei LOL.... The next one is the vaccine between the tried and true tested technology of inactivated vaccines (Sinopharm, SinoVac) vs MRnA vaccines (Pfizer, MODERNA) and despite western societys rejection and rebellion of what was essentially a FORCED MANDATED Vaccines (against the will of the individual) western governments went ahead anyway contrary to the policy enacted in China where testing, contact tracing and isolation (Practice that were ADOPTED BY AMERICA AND THE WEST) then LOCKDOWNS with testing up round the clock. Despite these herculean efforts and sacrifices both by the Chinese people and the government the unrelenting attack and other imaginary falsehoods kept coming.

The attacks would have some merit if the countries doing the attacking have done a stupendous job in protecting their own people from infection and death. U. S. AND India have no business attacking China on covid-19 related matters PERIOD. India is said to have lost over 5 MILLION OF HER PEOPLE yet, the Indian government insisted that WHO calculations are Flawed just like any other UN studies that Indians summarily dismiss as rubbish if and when it does not align with their reality. But, India has an excuse since the country is still a developing country like China, and the health care infrastructure isn't up to the standards like those in the great and almighty U.S. where most of our persistent O.G.'s are coming from. Despite record infections and death compared to China, not to mention a looming $3.6 TRILLION crisis brought on by long-covid, vaccine related injuries and death caused by MRnA these SOB' s insist to lecture us with their decrepit holier than thou sanctimonious bullshit. So NO I WON'T HEAR THEIR BULLSHIT.
 
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Biscuits

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Any loss of lives let alone Chinese lives ought to be a very sad event for anyone including yourself Chinese or not. Unless of course the only thing we give a shit about is the geopolitics of our time and paying lip service to human lives as nothing but unfortunate statistics. That's just callous and barbaric and that's not how I function, am not implying or remotely suggesting you're indifferent to Chinese death.

Having said all of that, there's no one disputing here that China had to open up since the people in general has had enough being essentially contained within their already considerable small spaces. Not to mention the economic toll, social upheaval, family issues from the personal to the professional.

The issue I find is with the usual idiots and suspects that loves to come out of their homework hibernation plastering every social media and forums like this one with the usual anti-China, anti-government B.s. The Chinese government is being held to a standard that's frankly no other government or political institutions can rise up to. Wuhan flare up = CPC about to collapse, massive cover up, more cases are underreported, mass deaths hidden etc.... When all of that were proven objectively to be untrue and the scourge of Covid-19 went worldwide. China, the government and it's people were used as the main culprits from disgusting accusations of bat eating, Wuhan lab leaked theory, bio attack against America, worst 5G induced virus caused by Huawei LOL.... The next one is the vaccine between the tried and true tested technology of inactivated vaccines (Sinopharm, SinoVac) vs MRnA vaccines (Pfizer, MODERNA) and despite western societys rejection and rebellion of what was essentially a FORCED MANDATED Vaccines (against the will of the individual) western governments went ahead anyway contrary to the policy enacted in China where testing, contact tracing and isolation (Practice that were ADOPTED BY AMERICA AND THE WEST) then LOCKDOWNS with testing up round the clock. Despite these herculean efforts and sacrifices both by the Chinese people and the government the unrelenting attack and other imaginary falsehoods kept coming.

The attacks would have some merit if the countries doing the attacking have done a stupendous job in protecting their own people from infection and death. U. S. AND India have no business attacking China on covid-19 related matters PERIOD. India is said to have lost over 5 MILLION OF HER PEOPLE yet, the Indian government insisted that WHO calculations are Flawed just like any other UN studies that Indians summarily dismiss as rubbish if and when it does not align with their reality. But, India has an excuse since the country is still a developing country like China, and the health care infrastructure isn't up to the standards like those in the great and almighty U.S. where most of our persistent O.G.'s are coming from. Despite record infections and death compared to China, not to mention a looming $3.6 TRILLION crisis brought on by long-covid, vaccine related injuries and death caused by MRnA these SOB' s insist to lecture us with their decrepit holier than thou sanctimonious bullshit. So NO I WON'T HEAR THEIR BULLSHIT.
We just have to accept that because of a slow response in the West, refusal to follow contract tracing in the early days of the pandemic, misinformation in the origins of the virus and so on, the virus has become endemic to human population.

Western governments chose lies and in many cases refused the best vaccines in lieu of creating their own which were often fraught with side effects and low effectiveness, due to its rushed nature.

However what goes around comes around. The results of Western strategy is ironically that millions of their citizens were sacrificed to ensure that their hated enemies get the most mild version of COVID19 with minimal disruption to their lives.

With the non-dangerous variant now already peaked in most major Chinese cities, deaths only among those with high fraility and likely numbering in no more than triple or quadruple digits among a 1.4 billion population, the COVID19 pandemic will come to an official end.

Due to the persistent misinformation and varying coverups, we may never know the origin of the virus, or maybe only many years later, like how the origin of the "Spanish" flu was found. But one thing that historians would know pretty fast is who was the overarching winner of this avoidable pandemic.
 
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