Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

manqiangrexue

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Looks like what CPC fears is not the number of deaths, but the fact that people will realize (and be outraged) that it was all much ado about nothing. When they find that 99% of the people survive and the only people who die were already on their way out anyway and would have died from a regular cold.
They're not worried about that. If anyone ever says something as stupid as what you just said, and the crowd hasn't done him in yet, they'd just point to the number of deaths in the US and everyone would nodd and have their confidence in the CCP renewed.
 

56860

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Looks like what CPC fears is not the number of deaths, but the fact that people will realize (and be outraged) that it was all much ado about nothing. When they find that 99% of the people survive and the only people who die were already on their way out anyway and would have died from a regular cold.
Lol even the reddit crowd makes it here
 

Han Patriot

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Lol even the reddit crowd makes it here
This is the insecurity these clowns have, if China does nothing and let it spread, they will accuse China of incompetence, if China controls and do zero covid, they will say China is autocratic. I am in Shanghai now, the death rate in US is staggering even with such high vaccinations and what not, total Chinese dead from this wave is around 500, US death rate in a day was 1900. The deaths in a day is equals to 35 days of Chinese lockdown. 1 MILLION DEAD and yet they dare to say China is fcking this up. Was the Shanghai response perfect? Nope. They were slow, and logistics was bogged down for the first few days but are people starving, I doubt it. DO we have some shortages on some food items, definitely, was it over reaction, I don't know. Personally I dont mind following the US method of culling the weak. Democracy is the rule of the majority afterall.

China is actually more humane than the West in this sense. Human right my ass.
 

tokenanalyst

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Zhuang Shilihe, a Guangzhou-based medical expert. said that when this round of outbreaks ebbs away in the Chinese mainland and buys time for preparations, the government should step up the stockpiling of COVID-19 medicines and optimize the arrangement of medical resources, such as establishing specialist testing teams to allow normalization of nucleic acid testing, and most importantly, to push ahead with vaccinating the elderly.

In order to fix those loopholes, China is racing against time to vaccinate its elderly. According to statistics from the National Health Commission (NHC), less than 40 percent of those aged above 60 received booster shots in early March. Officials from NHC said at a conference on April 29 that the booster vaccination rate of this age group has reached 59 percent.

Interesting, hopefully 20% more this month, but usually takes a month or two to vaccines induce strong immunity.
 

Quickie

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Zhuang Shilihe, a Guangzhou-based medical expert. said that when this round of outbreaks ebbs away in the Chinese mainland and buys time for preparations, the government should step up the stockpiling of COVID-19 medicines and optimize the arrangement of medical resources, such as establishing specialist testing teams to allow normalization of nucleic acid testing, and most importantly, to push ahead with vaccinating the elderly.

In order to fix those loopholes, China is racing against time to vaccinate its elderly. According to statistics from the National Health Commission (NHC), less than 40 percent of those aged above 60 received booster shots in early March. Officials from NHC said at a conference on April 29 that the booster vaccination rate of this age group has reached 59 percent.

Interesting, hopefully 20% more this month, but usually takes a month or two to vaccines induce strong immunity.

Interesting, hopefully 20% more this month, but usually takes a month or two to vaccines induce strong immunity.

So, the lockdowns are really not as useless as those naysayers would want to claim.

They are really to buy time for the immunity to build up, especially for the older age groups.
 

solarz

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Zhuang Shilihe, a Guangzhou-based medical expert. said that when this round of outbreaks ebbs away in the Chinese mainland and buys time for preparations, the government should step up the stockpiling of COVID-19 medicines and optimize the arrangement of medical resources, such as establishing specialist testing teams to allow normalization of nucleic acid testing, and most importantly, to push ahead with vaccinating the elderly.

In order to fix those loopholes, China is racing against time to vaccinate its elderly. According to statistics from the National Health Commission (NHC), less than 40 percent of those aged above 60 received booster shots in early March. Officials from NHC said at a conference on April 29 that the booster vaccination rate of this age group has reached 59 percent.

Interesting, hopefully 20% more this month, but usually takes a month or two to vaccines induce strong immunity.

Even with a high vaccination rate, you can't curb the infections. Shanghai went into lockdown when the cases were still largely asymptomatic. If the zero-covid policy was lifted, infection would spread like wildfire, vaccination or no vaccination.
 

Coalescence

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Even with a high vaccination rate, you can't curb the infections. Shanghai went into lockdown when the cases were still largely asymptomatic. If the zero-covid policy was lifted, infection would spread like wildfire, vaccination or no vaccination.
Yes, this is what I've been trying to explain. Even after full vaccination, restrictions would still be in place to slow the spread and to minimize the amount of people getting infected, however I think they'll loosen up on the conditions for when lockdowns need to be executed. I'm still waiting to see if they'll encourage the use of ventilation systems equipped with UVC light to sterilize covid particles, I think it would be extremely effective in cutting covid transmission risk and keeping the air clean of any current or future pathogen in general.
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tokenanalyst

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Yes, this is what I've been trying to explain. Even after full vaccination, restrictions would still be in place to slow the spread and to minimize the amount of people getting infected, however I think they'll loosen up on the conditions for when lockdowns need to be executed. I'm still waiting to see if they'll encourage the use of ventilation systems equipped with UVC light to sterilize covid particles, I think it would be extremely effective in cutting covid transmission risk and keeping the air clean of any current or future pathogen in general.
Doesn't UV light produce eye damage? Is UVC safer?
 

Coalescence

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Doesn't UV light produce eye damage? Is UVC safer?
UVC is safer and germicidal than other UV lights (UVA and UVB). Its safe for the skin at certain range, but I think its not safe for the eyes to be staring at UVC lights or any light for that matter, and UV doesn't reflect off walls well somewhat. The research on its safety is varied at the moment, but its effectiveness in sterilization is established. Which is why it should be employed within ventilation systems, like within an air conditioner or intake fans, hidden away from people's sight.

There's also this open source project done by an engineer from Shenzhen, trying to make UVC lights for surface and air sterilization, that can be mass produced with simple materials. Which I think its pretty nice, but it has a higher health risk and covid is primarily transmitted through air, either way UVC surface sterilization can be applied for certain situations. Maybe a UVC lamp with motion sensors that shut itself off when a person is nearby?
 
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