Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

siegecrossbow

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Didn't China announce to shorten the quarantine for some Chinese cities to 10 days. I think it is 10 days quarantine + 7 days monitor. The rollout is piecemeal right now due to ongoing pandemic. As for international students, China did allow some of them to return based upon needs. I think China would allow more international students return and relax the quarantine requirement later this year.

After the Shanghai fiasco? I dont think so.
 

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I'm happy to see they are finally doing some of the policies I thought would be effective.
Those who really need to leave Beijing must present a nucleic acid test negative certificate taken within 48 hours and a green health code before boarding a plane or a train.
To curb virus transmission, municipal authorities are requiring that all residents present a negative nucleic acid test result taken within the past 48 hours if they wish to enter public places, including scenic areas, hotels and homestays, during the five-day May Day holiday that began on Saturday.
Also finally they are encouraging the use of KN95 and N95 mask which is more effective than surgical masks by a lot, I was starting cringe seeing photos and videos of them mostly wearing surgical mask.
Key personnel such as front-line medical workers and delivery platform workers should wear N95 or KN95 masks while working. Residents are also advised to wear N95 or KN95 masks in closed control areas and temporary control areas, the city stressed.
Restaurants are allowed to be open but takeout only, which is similar to Shenzhen during the early days of their lockdown.
Dine-in services have been suspended at all restaurants in the city from Sunday through to Wednesday, although venues are allowed to offer takeout...

According to the latest statistics from food delivery platforms, orders for food delivery during the May Day holiday have increased by 30 percent. At the same time, delivery platforms have ensured the dining needs of Beijing residents by increasing the capacity, increasing the number of prepared dishes, and launching in-store pickup services.
Now I'm hoping they'll encourage and supply air purifiers and UV lights. then build up more isolation centers, its baffling how slow they are in implementing and experimenting new measures.
 

Michaelsinodef

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Now I'm hoping they'll encourage and supply air purifiers and UV lights. then build up more isolation centers, its baffling how slow they are in implementing and experimenting new measures.
You say they are slow, but anyone else doing anything similar lol?

At the end of the day though, things take time to carry out, especially when you're as big of a country as China and as populous as it is (there should be more urgency now as well I suppose).
 

Coalescence

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You say they are slow, but anyone else doing anything similar lol?

At the end of the day though, things take time to carry out, especially when you're as big of a country as China and as populous as it is (there should be more urgency now as well I suppose).
I thought it was slow because they only implemented it after two years of pandemic, but then again they could have been complacent or implementing them takes up resources and manpower. After the Shanghai fiasco, these implementation started to spring up, so I guess they have the capability to mobilize quickly all along, for when things become urgent.
 

SanWenYu

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they could have been complacent
This and fatigue.

CPC should call its members to study
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("On Protracted War" by Mao Zedong) again.

于是失败主义的亡国论者跑出来向人们说:中国会亡,最后胜利不是中国的。某些性急的朋友们也跑出来向人们说:中国很快就能战胜,无需乎费大气力。这些议论究竟对不对呢?我们一向都说:这些议论是不对的。可是我们说的,还没有为大多数人所了解。一半因为我们的宣传解释工作还不够,一半也因为客观事变的发展还没有完全暴露其固有的性质,还没有将其面貌鲜明地摆在人们之前,使人们无从看出其整个的趋势和前途,因而无从决定自己的整套的方针和做法。现在好了,抗战十个月的经验,尽够击破毫无根据的亡国论,也尽够说服急性朋友们的速胜论了。
问:在什么条件下,中国能战胜并消灭日本帝国主义的实力呢?
  答:要有三个条件:第一是中国抗日统一战线的完成;第二是国际抗日统一战线的完成;第三是日本国内人民和日本殖民地人民的革命运动的兴起。就中国人民的立场来说,三个条件中,中国人民的大联合是主要的。
  问:你想,这个战争要延长多久呢?
  答:要看中国抗日统一战线的实力和中日两国其它许多决定的因素如何而定。即是说,除了主要地看中国自己的力量之外,国际间所给中国的援助和日本国内革命的援助也很有关系。如果中国抗日统一战线有力地发展起来,横的方面和纵的方面都有效地组织起来,如果认清日本帝国主义威胁他们自己利益的各国政府和各国人民能给中国以必要的援助,如果日本的革命起来得快,则这次战争将迅速结束,中国将迅速胜利。如果这些条件不能很快实现,战争就要延长。但结果还是一样,日本必败,中国必胜。只是牺牲会大,要经过一个很痛苦的时期。

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Mao starts off the book by critiquing the "defeatist exponents of the theory of national subjugation".
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He argues that because of the creation of the
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and national "perseverance" the Japanese have failed to achieve a victory through
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and that China was now engaged in a "protracted war".
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Afterwards, Mao criticizes the proponents of "China's quick victory" stating that they were underestimating the enemy.
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He expresses his dislike of
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who assume that
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holds a supplementary role to mobile warfare.
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Mao laments that their hopes consisted chiefly of a victory through foreign military intervention by the
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or victory through a
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Michaelsinodef

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This and fatigue.

CPC should call its members to study
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("On Protracted War" by Mao Zedong) again.




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With how omicron is epping out in Jilin and how numbers in Shanghai are going down, the 'worst' of it should be over now.

If anything, the light at the end of the tunnel for Shanghai should very much be visible now.
 

Temstar

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This and fatigue.

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("On Protracted War" by Mao Zedong) again.




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You can say what you like about Mao's ability to run a country but he really does have prescient visions when it comes to this sort of thing. Three years after he wrote this Pearl Harbour happened, fulfilling condition 2 in his prediction and then things turned out exactly how he predicted. I bet Taliban spent a lot of time studying this book judging by their performance in the last 20 years, particularly the events of last year.

Getting back on COVID, just as in his time today we also have "lie flat" defeatists, but rest assure most people in China look down upon such defeatist thinking and the case of Hong Kong and Shanghai are decidedly considered to be negative examples. No one is saying in public "let's give the Shanghai strategy another try."

The current big outbreak in Taiwan will also reinforce the need for dynamic zero strategy. One wonders what public sentiment will be in RoC towards DPP once people start to see daily 3 digit deaths.
 
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