Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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Too much focus have been placed on mortality and hospitalization rates. Long covid's effect on society is heavily underestimated, but vaccine still helps cut the long covid rates from what read, somewhere around 50%.
I've been reading sources on long covid and other negative effects covid can bring, even if the case is mild or vaccinated. I've been completely stunned by what this thing can do, and I think we won't be able to truly "live with covid", the newer variants are likely going to be worse.
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Elderly are most likely to die from COVID too.
I wonder what the breakdown of the 10% unvaxxed China population (140 million) is. If it's mostly elderly, we are look at MILLIONS of lives potentially lost because these entitled Chinese boomers are fucking it up for rest of society.
What better person to clear up the COVID situation in Shanghai than our boy Nathan Rich, who happens to be living, and locked down in Shanghai.
Basically he's grateful for China's approach to handling COVID in Shanghai and overall in China, although there are some undeniable miss-steps in Shanghai. He's especially grateful when China's authorities can remain laser focused on the long term overall betterment of its people, in spite of all the negative pressure and propaganda, and the complaints due to having to take some short term pain for a long term gain.
Basically he's grateful for China's approach to handling COVID in Shanghai and overall in China, although there are some undeniable miss-steps in Shanghai. He's especially grateful when China's authorities can remain laser focused on the long term overall betterment of its people, in spite of all the negative pressure and propaganda, and the complaints due to having to take some short term pain for a long term gain.
And as always Nathan Rich hit the nail in the coffin with his pointed comment about the Chinese government's inability to "properly communicate" to their citizens especially in Shanghai the purpose and objectives of the necessity of lock downs in order to save lives. Is the government still this insecure about their position within China that it cannot even allow itself to communicate to their people without being too paranoid about it by treating their people like they're some spoiled illiterate children.
The CPC really needs to establish a very good way of effective Communication mechanism so that the people can be assured and understand what their government is doing. Which could lessen the paranoia, and conspiratorial thinking some people can either succumb or fall victim from which can also lead to social chaos and instability.
The Chinese government need to modernize their approach as well as mature their connection with the people they're leading. At this juncture they ought to have the confidence and be self-assured of their legitimacy to have a direct engagement with the Chinese people in times of great disturbance.
Maybe that's why the CPC have been promoting what they call "People's democracy", and was requesting and accepting suggestions for issues and solutions for the next party congress. Its an attempt at establishing communication between the people and the government, and we can them to test out more methods or policies in the future to achieve their idea of democracy.
That’s about 1500 dead if extrapolated to a month. and under lockdown conditions. Scary thought If letting virus run amok in a country of 1.4b.
I have a feeling the amount of deaths today is going to increase, and would likely increase for a few more days before peaking then slowly decrease. A repeat of HK, since both have similar problem with elderly vaccination rates.
It’s not easy in a country of 1.4billion people , I mean even Shanghai that’s supposed to be most westernised and very educated and presumably more open to modern medicine has not good vaccination uptake rate among elderly. There’s a limit of wat a government can do, people are not robots they can just program. The central government message been pretty consistent as far as I know. Omicron isn’t like flu. vaccinations helps, lockdowns are necessary and saves lives etc. I think people just assume its easy to persuade 1.4 billion people to do wats in the country and her people best interest. but it’s really not. There are always gonna be idiots, hanjians, selfish assholes no matter how much the government try to engage them.
Hopefully so, the lockdown will work eventually, the science behind it is solid, the implementation was late so it’s taking longer and frustrating people. HK was fubar though , they didn’t have a strict effective lockdown like in mainland. A lot of people died needlessly