I don’t think it’s necessarily being cold, I think there is a cultural divide here. Traditionally grandparents/elderly parents will live together in Chinese culture. This is less common in European families, so lockdowns are separating the families and actually making many old folks quite lonely. So the calculation becomes, if you aren’t happy, what are you living for?
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I don’t think it’s necessarily being cold, I think there is a cultural divide here. Traditionally grandparents/elderly parents will live together in Chinese culture. This is less common in European families, so lockdowns are separating the families and actually making many old folks quite lonely. So the calculation becomes, if you aren’t happy, what are you living for?
SK has 90% vaccination rate and boosted rate but still has 0.18 mortality rate. So if China reopened, the first wave would still cause considerable damages.
Don't think other places can afford incentives like Beijing but probably a bag of rice or something would boost the vaccination rate for elderly.
In South Korea, for example, more than 90 per cent of those aged 60 and above had had booster shots by the time the started to spread across the nation in January, according to a Bloomberg report.
But in China, out of the 264 million people aged over 60, about 80 per cent of them had been fully vaccinated as of last Tuesday and only 55 per cent have received a booster shot, according to the National Health Commission.
By comparison, around 88 per cent of the country’s 1.41 billion people are fully vaccinated.
The northwestern province of Qinghai said it aimed to give over 560,000 people aged 60 and above a first dose by the end of April to reach a vaccination rate of over 78 per cent.
In the southeastern province of Guangdong, where 19 symptomatic cases and 18 asymptomatic infections were reported on Monday, local health authorities have called on its 15.6 million people aged over 60 to get their shots as soon as possible.
Some neighbourhood communities in Beijing’s Chaoyang district also said last month that people above 60 would be given 300-500 yuan (US$47-78) as an incentive to have their first jab.
Don't think other places can afford incentives like Beijing but probably a bag of rice or something would boost the vaccination rate for elderly.
In South Korea, for example, more than 90 per cent of those aged 60 and above had had booster shots by the time the started to spread across the nation in January, according to a Bloomberg report.
But in China, out of the 264 million people aged over 60, about 80 per cent of them had been fully vaccinated as of last Tuesday and only 55 per cent have received a booster shot, according to the National Health Commission.
By comparison, around 88 per cent of the country’s 1.41 billion people are fully vaccinated.
The northwestern province of Qinghai said it aimed to give over 560,000 people aged 60 and above a first dose by the end of April to reach a vaccination rate of over 78 per cent.
In the southeastern province of Guangdong, where 19 symptomatic cases and 18 asymptomatic infections were reported on Monday, local health authorities have called on its 15.6 million people aged over 60 to get their shots as soon as possible.
Some neighbourhood communities in Beijing’s Chaoyang district also said last month that people above 60 would be given 300-500 yuan (US$47-78) as an incentive to have their first jab.
Gong Zheng has never worked with Xi. Saying Gong Zheng is from the Zhejiang gang is one thing but saying Gong Zheng is Xi lapdog is just nonsense.
In addition, I want to say that people in Shanghai have never had a nice words to say about their mayors except Jiang. They believe they deserve better. So every appointees would be ridiculed no matter what.
China's vaccination rate is way too low. This is endangering the health and the economy of the whole country. All people need to get boosted, rather than just getting tested multiple times.
Sorry I was scolding Li Qiang. In fact we did not scold every leader in Shanghai, Han Zheng is actually good. Do you know why? Thanks to the streets under that idiot's leadership spending money on erecting signs as if they could really bring any benefit to the average citizen; fulfilling without fail the task Xi gave him of storing flights from abroad, but Shanghai has long been de facto overloaded, and can you believe it, they had to enable such hotels as quarantine points. I don't feel as a citizen of Shanghai deserves preferential treatment but if the leaders who serve as Shanghai are under the illusion as if they have 100% access to Beijing as long as there are no mistakes. This makes no longer think about the citizens! Even if you pretend to touch the exterior of the old house to paint the face paint is fine, he does not. The only supplies I've gotten from government distribution these past two weeks have been only purple onions and carrots, and if you think this is retribution for an ordinary Shanghai citizen, then I don't think we need to have a conversation.
Seeing the situation in Shanghai, I hope they'll take this as a harsh lesson and prepare a lockdown plan for every city. Build temporary quarantine hotels early, inspect and designate hotels suited for quarantine, recruit volunteers as reserves to be called upon when the lockdown begins, improve logistics by working with local stores and groceries along with local delivery personnel, etc.
There are many steps could take to avoid this situation from happening again. I'm really disappointed that after two years of the pandemic, they didn't prepare anything to make the transition to a lockdown smoother, and the lockdown less painful for the individuals. It seems like they lowered their guard, after seeing how low their cases are relative to overseas cases.
There are many steps could take to avoid this situation from happening again. I'm really disappointed that after two years of the pandemic, they didn't prepare anything to make the transition to a lockdown smoother, and the lockdown less painful for the individuals. It seems like they lowered their guard, after seeing how low their cases are relative to overseas cases.
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Is this some kind of joke?
As a person from Shanghai, you don't even know Li Qiang has never been the mayor of Shanghai. I just find it strange.
Han Zheng was born in Shanghai and part of The Shanghai Clique. Of course, you find him more favorable. At that time, disproportionate resources were spent on Shanghai to cement it as China financial center.
As for Shanghai taking up all the flights and act as quarantine hub, I always find it unwise. Especially, Shanghai proactively took up the task to host Hong Kongers which is really unnecessary. If these decisions were made by Li Qiang, then he deserves the blame. Maybe Li Qiang gambled on Telsa and won big time in both economic and political points has emboldened him to take on unnecessary risks which might bring his downfall.
However, the Shanghai gang has dominated politics in Yangtze delta for decades. And the Chinese political structures have made it unlikely that Li Qiang to have say in everything. Blaming one person for the mess in Shanghai is unconvincing. It is not only one person to be blamed.
I just find it funny that people from Shanghai trying to pinpoint one person as scapegoat either the vice premier or Li Qiang. But not looking at it as some kind of systematic failures from top to bottom, from Shanghai medical advisors to media.
As angry as you are, people outside of Shanghai are even more angrily asking why Shanghai is never designated as a high risk area that resulted the virus spreading to 21 provinces, who came up with the precision approach, why there are no preparation whatsoever for the lock down, why Shanghai media can insult Xian and many other places pandemic performance and praise Shanghai as a shining example But are all quiet now. Why Shanghai refused helps from other provinces at the beginning, why there are no mass testing in Shanghai when other major cities all have such policy, why Shanghai pandemic policies are so different from other provinces such as no high risk area or different designation of asymptomatic cases.
Even if you wanted to blame Li Qiang, the most important question you need to ask why Shanghai as the most wealthy city could fail So badly. Even a third tier city in China has done a better job than Shanghai.
Playing the blame game is easy. Finding the right things to be blamed and fixed them are not.
In the end of the day, you have the right to be mad and angry and disappointed as the government has failed you.
What was even the rationale for separating children from their parents? What could those morons imagined that by force separation the inevitable trauma inflicted on both the parents, and children were acceptable? And that by such action it'll cause anger from their domestic constituencies as well as providing ample materiale to China's foreign enemies anti-China propaganda.
Also, one would think or assume that leaders from major important cities in China have prepared, applied every lessons learned from the Wuhan situation in order to prevent, buttress the effectiveness of their own leadership prowess not to mention the effectiveness of the very system their legitimacy is based upon. Bleeping idiots. Patronage without competency what a potent combo.