Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

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SanWenYu

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KYli said:
Chinese government means business. Hong Kong government is just like typical western politicians always talk the talk but never walk the walk.
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The "infrastructure maniac" is pulling off some magic again!

To build and staff makeshift hospitals in days on the other side of a river, the maniac built a makeshift bridge over a weekend.
 
SteelBird

SteelBird

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PiSigma said:
You are also reading Viet news, so basically can conclude it's all BS.
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Not exactly. The one I read is vnexpress.net and there are two version of the news; English and Vietnamese. News from this site is rather formal but of course it serves the political purpose of the Vietnamese government. Something like Xinhua.net to China.

In the comment part of the news, I raised two questions:
1. Since the news claim Lianhua is used to treat cough, sore throat... these are symptoms seen on Covid-19 patients. So what's wrong to use Lianhua to treat Covid-19?
2. It claims Lianhua contains Ephedra, how much Ephedra contained in each pill of Lianhua and how many pills does it take to make a patient become addiction?
But my comments were never allowed to post... :mad:
 
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supersnoop

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SteelBird said:
Not exactly. The one I read is vnexpress.net and there are two version of the news; English and Vietnamese. News from this site is rather formal but of course it serves the political purpose of the Vietnamese government. Something like Xinhua.net to China.

In the comment part of the news, I raised two questions:
1. Since the news claim Lianhua is used to treat cough, sore throat... these are symptoms seen on Covid-19 patients. So what's wrong to use Lianhua to treat Covid-19?
2. It claims Lianhua contains Ephedra, how much Ephedra contained in each pill of Lianhua and how many pills does it take to make a patient become addiction?
But my comments were never allowed to post... :mad:
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if you are asking here for your own benefit…

1. It isn’t wrong. Many common western cough medications also contain ephedrine and pseudoephedrine. It is supposed to dilate the lungs to help deal with upper respiratory illness.

2. Just because it has a similar chemical structure to meth doesn’t make it identical. Never ever heard of anyone addicted to ephedra. Think about it this way, if ephedrine was so addictive on its own, you wouldn’t have to take the extra reaction steps to convert it to meth. Just isolate the ephedrine and enjoy the extra profits!
 
winword

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SteelBird said:
Not exactly. The one I read is vnexpress.net and there are two version of the news; English and Vietnamese. News from this site is rather formal but of course it serves the political purpose of the Vietnamese government. Something like Xinhua.net to China.

In the comment part of the news, I raised two questions:
1. Since the news claim Lianhua is used to treat cough, sore throat... these are symptoms seen on Covid-19 patients. So what's wrong to use Lianhua to treat Covid-19?
2. It claims Lianhua contains Ephedra, how much Ephedra contained in each pill of Lianhua and how many pills does it take to make a patient become addiction?
But my comments were never allowed to post... :mad:
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This medicine existed long before covid, personally I've used it years ago and never got addicted.
 
SteelBird

SteelBird

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In case you guys are interested in how the Vietnamese news report about Lianhua Qingwen, I copy it for Google translate.
Another drug that is being used by many people, especially in the North, to treat Covid-19 is Lienhua Qingwen. However, Lienhua Qingwen is being warned by many countries that it is addictive and dangerous for users to treat Covid. This drug is also not included in the World Health Organization (WHO) list of drugs for Covid-19 patients.

According to the pharmacist, Lienhua Qingwen was popular during the 2003 SARS outbreak, used in China as an over-the-counter cold medicine. It contains herbs such as honeysuckle, Japanese honeysuckle, ephedra and pine root. The drug is said to have the effect of detoxifying the lungs and clearing heat. Chinese people spread each other as a treatment for Covid-19 when Omicron spread rapidly.

Hui Yang, an associate professor of preventive medicine and general medicine at Monash University, Australia, told ABC News that Lian Hua Qingwen was approved by China's National Health Product Administration for treatment. People infected with corona virus have mild symptoms such as cough, fever and fatigue.

However, the Australian Food and Drug Administration (TGA) recently announced that it would not allow the circulation of Lotus Flower because it contains ephedra, the main ingredient that creates methamphetamine (a synthetic narcotic). A TGA spokesperson said: "Ephedra can pose serious risks to patients, including heart toxicity, irreversible eye damage and impaired blood sugar."

According to the TGA, China allows the use of ephedra to treat illnesses such as colds and asthma. However, the patient needs to be closely monitored by a doctor qualified in traditional medicine. "Ephedra is not approved as a treatment for Covid-19 and should not be used to treat Covid," the TGA advised.

Singapore officials at the end of 2021 also warned about the use of Lotus Flower to treat Covid-19. The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) said the drug is not licensed to treat people infected with nCoV.

Some products of Lotus Flower are in the exclusive group of Chinese medicines in Singapore, helping to reduce cold and flu symptoms. "The HSA approves them based on the documented use of the ingredients, but to date there is no clinical evidence that the drug can prevent or treat Covid-19," CNA quoted the HSA as saying.

According to the HSA, herbal remedies for the common cold and flu should only be used to relieve symptoms such as headache, runny nose, stuffy nose, sore throat and cough.

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has warned that some pharmaceutical companies have falsely advertised the Qingyuan Festival that they can reduce, prevent, and treat Covid-19.

In Vietnam, the Ministry of Health has not issued any warnings about Lien Hoa Thanh On, and with Arbidol and Areplivir, the drugs have not been officially licensed for circulation or import. Medicines sold online, forum groups are all floating goods, of unknown origin, quality and are "committed to oral treatment"...

Recently, Hanoi Police coordinated with the Market Management Department to inspect and seize three cases of transporting and storing Covid-19 treatment drugs with foreign words on products but no documents to prove the origin.

The Ministry of Health has asked the Department of Health of Ho Chi Minh City to check and verify the status of drug sales for Covid-19 treatment (in clinical trial, not yet authorized for circulation) on social networks and online platforms.

Experts recommend that F0 can't contact the health department due to overload, so it's wise to choose an information channel for help, not to waste money and abet the drug smuggling group. People should also not use according to prescriptions spread on the Internet that are not prescribed for them by a doctor. In fact, there have been many cases of using the wrong drug, overdose causing poisoning. Depending on your symptoms, your doctor will recommend a separate treatment regimen, because there are contraindications that F0 cannot understand.
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daifo

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KYli said:
That's why I always say China shouldn't pay too much attention of its image and Western backlash. Don't waste time to wake a person who pretending to be asleep.
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I have do admit that they had the argument that flights from China (mid feb) should not be ban even though China lockeddown is a major point among some people i know
 
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