Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Derpy

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Didn't they drop covid restrictions a year ago?
Dropped most of them after vaccination last summer but then they came back late autumn when cases started going up again and omicron had just been found in South Africa.
 

Tam

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mRNA loses against traditional vaccines again.

To sum it all,

Inactivated and viral vector vaccines show nearly the same rate of preventing hospitalizations and serious symptoms as mRNA vaccines can.

If viral vaccines are done right, which is namely Sputnik-V, it can match the efficacy of mRNA vaccines.

Protein subunit vaccines has shown they can match the efficacy of mRNA vaccines.

All these are based on expired and open IP that's available to all.
 

BoraTas

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I think MSM spent a year to say Chinese inactivated vaccines are not effective against Delta. Now it is about Omicron. This never ends.
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That 51% result was from Brazil and it was using healthcare workers as the cohort. Healthcare workers contact the virus more and they are regularly tested. Brazil had the beta variant as the dominant variant back then. Beta was a variant with significant resistance to vaccines. It was literally the worst case scenario until delta came. American media of course jumped on that.
I really wonder how many people died in the developing world because they rejected Chinese vaccines, probably the only vaccines they had access to because of Western hoarding, because of those articles. Unlike what happens in Hollywood movies, the USA couldn't even save its own people, let alone save the world.
 

BoraTas

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How a wall can make the trade cumbersome? Do these people think trucks go through mountains instead of roads to reach China? Or do they think trade is done in bazaars located at the border like it is 4000 BCE? But you know, it is Murdoch media. It is as close to the real world as Star Wars is.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Long article but very well written and a balance reporting on the Wuhan Virology Centre, the Chinese scientist in the middle of the firestorm and the Chinese government apparent lack of "confidence on itself" hence the tendency to be reactive rather than proactive whenever an embarrassing event arises. The CPC will hopefully put in place a system of sorts that'll inspire and invite confidence that whatever happens, whoever is the next leader or leaders the level of excellence will be Chinese High Quality Standard. If that happens some of the anti-China crap will taper down.

“I used to admire the West. I used to think it was a just and meritocratic society. I used to think it must be wonderful to live in a country where anybody could criticize the government.”
“What do you think now?” I pressed.
“Now I think if you are Chinese then it doesn’t matter how good you are at your job—because you are tried by nationality,” she said. “I’ve now realized that the Western democracy is hypocritical, and that much of its media is driven by lies, prejudices, and politics.”
Shi paused and drew a sharp breath. Her body tensed, blood flushing her cheeks. The air swelled and seemed to grow hotter.
“They’ve lost the moral high ground as far as I’m concerned,” she said. And if politics overpowers science, “then there will be no basis for any cooperation.”

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yongpengsuen

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The difference is West gave up at the very beginning, whereas China will treat it like any other regular cold/flu AFTER variant is evolved to be less severe and population is vaccinated and boosted. That's over 3 million lives differences between West and China.

Severity depends on exposure. Cold virus are very mild for humans but deadly to chimps who have no exposure to it.

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Tam

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Severity depends on exposure. Cold virus are very mild for humans but deadly to chimps who have no exposure to it.

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Flu virus helped wiped out entire human societies in the past --- Meso American civilizations like Aztecs, and natives of the South Pacific Islands. We're talking of genocidal levels here.
 
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