Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Phead128]

Covid has been circulating in animals for millions if not billions of years. Doesn’t mean anything to us humans unless the virus can make the jump between species, which is astronomically rare or we would have had covid like pandemics multiple times every year due to all the animal virus in the world.

No, I'm saying the cross-species variant of SAR-CoV-2 (the variant that jumped from animals-to-humans) is infecting both humans and animals simultaneously. So even if we vaccinate all humans, we would need to vaccinate (or genocide) the bat, pangolin, civets, deer, dog, cat population that can be animal hosts to SAR-CoV-2, meaning "herd immunity" is impossible because SAR-CoV-2 can hide amongst animals and SAR-CoV-2 can still mutate in the animal population. For example, we don't know if Omnicron mutated among animals or among humans.

We are only able to eradicated like two viruses in human history (e.g. Smallpox) and only because Smallpox can infect only humans (and not animals) and we mass-vaccinated before it can mutate too much. With COVID, we are vaccinating at an snail's pace with human population, and there is already a dozen variants emerging...

 

[SteelBird]

@AssassinsMace Sir, I had my Sinovac booster shot yesterday ( yup I had to apologies and eat my word, can't argue with wife since I'm driving the whole family to the vaccination center). The line is shorter while the Pfizer is jam packed, the reason? In the past it may be a headline news BUT now it hardly matter, the gov't is pushing Pfizer cause it is expensive to maintain and the expiration is nearing, when you registered the first thing they do is offer Pfizer and are pushing it aggressively, making you think WTF!

Just for your info; Vietnam extends the expiry date of their stock of Pfizer which have never moved out of warehouse.

 

[ansy1968]

Just for your info; Vietnam extends the expiry date of their stock of Pfizer which have never moved out of warehouse.

@SteelBird bro you know how much money we spend on the refrigeration, 10% or more from the budget allocated ( should had been use in buying more vaccine), since the gov't mostly rent it from the private sector, it cost more and IF not distributed ASAP it will sky rocketed as it lay idle in storage. It takes a lot of effort and cost to inoculated those from the provinces using Pfizer, so instead of bringing the vaccine to the Barangay Center in far flung villages, we bring the villagers to the city. That is why Sinovac is the prefer vaccine and mostly use in the provinces due to easy transportability. And the reason why the Gov't is really pushing Pfizer is to justify the cost (high price) and not let it be wasted as the expiration approaches.

 

[Phead128]

Covid has been circulating in humans since prehistoric times. Covid-19 is a new strain yes, but because almost every person is immune to OC43 and 229E they already had a good degree of immunity against covid-19 back in 2019. Cross immunity is one reason the 2009 pandemic with the new H1N1 strain was particularly weak.

No...COVID-19 is a disease (CoronaVirus Disease 2019) , it's not a virus. COVID-19 is not a new strain, it is a new disease.

SARs-CoV-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19.

Coronaviruses has been circulating for billions of years. Coronaviruses can cause the Common Cold too. 40% of Common colds are caused by Coronaviruses...

 

[SteelBird]

@SteelBird bro you know how much money we spend on the refrigeration, 10% or more from the budget allocated ( should had been use in buying more vaccine), since the gov't mostly rent it from the private sector, it cost more and IF not distributed ASAP it will sky rocketed as it lay idle in storage. It takes a lot of effort and cost to inoculated those from the provinces using Pfizer, so instead of bringing the vaccine to the Barangay Center in far flung villages, we bring the villagers to the city. That is why Sinovac is the prefer vaccine and mostly use in the provinces due to easy transportability. And the reason why the Gov't is really pushing Pfizer is to justify the cost (high price) and not let it be wasted as the expiration approaches.

My brother, my point of view is, at this point, do not discriminate any vaccine. Yes, ANY! As long as there is vaccine available, take it! And yes, the type of vaccine that cost you more for storage, you need to use them first to cut storage costs. For some reasons, people trust Western products more than Chinese ones, let them take it as long as your government can provide it to them. If for some other reasons, people don't wanna take Chinese vaccine at all. I don't mind that either. It's their lives, it's their choices and it has to go along with your government's policies too.

 

[gadgetcool5]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473462641507119108

 

[ansy1968]

My brother, my point of view is, at this point, do not discriminate any vaccine. Yes, ANY! As long as there is vaccine available, take it! And yes, the type of vaccine that cost you more for storage, you need to use them first to cut storage costs. For some reasons, people trust Western products more than Chinese ones, let them take it as long as your government can provide it to them. If for some other reasons, people don't wanna take Chinese vaccine at all. I don't mind that either. It's their lives, it's their choices and it has to go along with your government's policies too.

@SteelBird Amen to that bro, BUT we had a choice and China offered both of its Vaccine early on with Clinical trials for early usage, Second country to be offered after UAE using Sinopharm and Third after Brazil and Indonesia for Sinovac and we dropped the ball so to speak for expensive Western Vaccine like Pfizer and Moderna. Brother for the price of Pfizer we can buy 2 doses of Sinovac, not counting the additional infrastructure cost for storage, it's crazy bordering on negligence and incompetence.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

A disease is a certain set of symptoms. Omi has different symptoms than the wild type and all the variants before it, so it cannot be covid-19. Maybe covid-21?

Covid has been circulating in humans since prehistoric times. Covid-19 is a new strain yes, but because almost every person is immune to OC43 and 229E they already had a good degree of immunity against covid-19 back in 2019. Cross immunity is one reason the 2009 pandemic with the new H1N1 strain was particularly weak.

I have been waiting for you to reveal your true face. How are you doing @Paull Fuzzball / @TomSellinger

 

[supercat]

The vaccine from Walter Reed is still in Phase 1, after 2 years of research. Considering the Omicron variant might be as contagious as measles, it's really a race against time.

One of the most recent research papers that points to the nature origin of SARS-CoV-2:

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[Bellum_Romanum]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473462641507119108

Hmmm...Interesting