Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Phead128]

Just a quick thought; if everyone country shared the zero covid as China from the very beginning, what would it had been now?

Then the virus will continue to mutate in the animal host population because SAR-CoV-2 originated from animals. More mutation.

Our only hope is to lockdown long enough for everyone to be fully vaccinated and have anti-viral pills for severe breakthrough cases from new variants (inevitable) and booster shots until the end of time.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

Extreme measures in Xian, for only 42 new cases ...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473235440845082630

Nothing wrong with that. People are ultimately selfish and will pursue their own interests. This prevents those people from becoming a mob which would panic and trample other people to reach the exit. If every country pursued a policy like this, the pandemic would have died already.

 

[Phead128]

Ontario science experts suggests mandating every person wear N95 mask instead of standard surgical mask and its variations. However, I don't think it makes much difference because the gap between mask and face is at least 0.1 millimeters and virus is about 0.1 micrometers.

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Using this logic, SICK people shouldn't wear face mask as source control because the tiny virus can go through the masks which is ridiculous and makes no sense.

You don't need 100% filtration for masks to offer beneficial reduction droplet exposure. The majority of cough or talking is large to medium sized droplets which can be captured by the masks. You also significantly reduce viral load exposure which could be associated with disease onset severity.

 

[Overbom]

Moderna booster is only half dose compared to the first two doses. I highly doubt Moderna booster can match Pfizer booster in performance.

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Moderna's booster is a half dose of the original vaccine, with 50 micrograms of mRNA in it. (Half-dose boosters are common for many vaccines, and they work well.)

Pfizer's booster is the same size as the first two shots, with 30 micrograms of mRNA in it.

Studies have shown that dosage matters. Seeing that Moderna's booster shot is 50 micrograms (first shots were 100 each...), which is almost double than Pfizer's, then I would personally go for Moderna

 

[Overbom]

Moderna is not as effective as Pfizer. I think 94% compared to 95%, and that was with 100 mg. A key point to remember is, the higher the antibodies, the faster antibodies decline.

I am talking about Omicron.

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blood from 20 people who received the 50-microgram Moderna booster had 37 times the number of neutralizing antibodies as compared to blood from the same number of people who only received two shots.

A group that received a third shot of the higher, 100-microgram dose saw an 83-fold jump in neutralizing antibodies against omicron

A study released earlier this month by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech showed that a third dose of their COVID-19 vaccine boosted neutralizing antibodies against omicron more than 25-fold, which should be protective, Topol said, though real-world studies are needed to prove it.

 

[AssassinsMace]

I got Moderna as a booster to my initial Pfizer shots. The nurse that gave me the shot said she thought Moderna was better but then as in the beginning when they started giving the vaccine, of course, there's so much information contradicting one another. I was okay with getting the Moderna shot because Pfizer seems to be more shady which seems to be the only thing consistent.

 

[plawolf]

Then the virus will continue to mutate in the animal host population because SAR-CoV-2 originated from animals. More mutation.

Our only hope is to lockdown long enough for everyone to be fully vaccinated and have anti-viral pills for severe breakthrough cases from new variants (inevitable) and booster shots until the end of time.

Covid has been circulating in animals for millions if not billions of years. Doesn’t mean anything to us humans unless the virus can make the jump between species, which is astronomically rare or we would have had covid like pandemics multiple times every year due to all the animal virus in the world.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

I got Moderna as a booster to my initial Pfizer shots. The nurse that gave me the shot said she thought Moderna was better but then as in the beginning when they started giving the vaccine, of course, there's so much information contradicting one another. I was okay with getting the Moderna shot because Pfizer seems to be more shady which seems to be the only thing consistent.

Interesting. While both are questionable, I assumed that Moderna, being a small company and all, would be the shadier one due to their history of making enormous claims and financial moves from some of their top members.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Interesting. While both are questionable, I assumed that Moderna, being a small company and all, would be the shadier one due to their history of making enormous claims and financial moves from some of their top members.

There's so much information blindly put out there that makes you think twice on everything. Pfizer from the beginning was shady. Remember when they said their vaccine when it first cam out has a 92% efficacy? Then the next day Modern said theirs was 94%. Then Pfizer immediately revised its efficacy to match Moderna's. They've been doing that kind of revising ever since exploiting what's said in the news day to day over COVID-19. You didn't hear much on Moderna but now I've heard things. And I bet they're both engaging in vaccine disinformation around the world hoping to scare everyone into buying their vaccine.

 

[ansy1968]

I got Moderna as a booster to my initial Pfizer shots. The nurse that gave me the shot said she thought Moderna was better but then as in the beginning when they started giving the vaccine, of course, there's so much information contradicting one another. I was okay with getting the Moderna shot because Pfizer seems to be more shady which seems to be the only thing consistent.

@AssassinsMace Sir, I had my Sinovac booster shot yesterday ( yup I had to apologies and eat my word, can't argue with wife since I'm driving the whole family to the vaccination center). The line is shorter while the Pfizer is jam packed, the reason? In the past it may be a headline news BUT now it hardly matter, the gov't is pushing Pfizer cause it is expensive to maintain and the expiration is nearing, when you registered the first thing they do is offer Pfizer and are pushing it aggressively, making you think WTF!