Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Chish

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Good Job 山東醫護團隊。Respect and Salute for your dedication and sacrifices. You make China proud.

This is great! ?True patriotic . But only after I have copied and pasted chinese writings into google translate. It would be nice if you guys would write something in english so that those who don't understand chinese (such as me) would have a clue of what it is all about? Sorry if I am asking a bit too much. Thanks.
 

dandelion clock

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This is great! ?True patriotic . But only after I have copied and pasted chinese writings into google translate. It would be nice if you guys would write something in english so that those who don't understand chinese (such as me) would have a clue of what it is all about? Sorry if I am asking a bit too much. Thanks.
I think I happened to see this yesterday on BBC's home page, with a short and clear-cut title "propaganda push", of course. I was not surprised, instead I partly agreed with it---had to, as much as I knew the media's narrative and appreciated the doctors' sacrifices, because there isn't allowed really here inside China any talk about or suggestion on political reforms to prevent such problems, which every Chinese knew deep down was the cause of this to a great extent man-made calamity (yes, aside from the wild animal stuff, which is really the habit and mentality of very small group of people, the proportion of which lower than the drug addcition rate of many countries, as far as I could tell even to myself) from being repeated a third, a fourth....time.......We didn't learn a thing from the SARS in 2003, and now we are officially the most hated country in the world........but China has to recover from this and go on, a long long way to go, to find its equal footing in this very world.
meanwhile really thankful to so many members on this forum, making us feel at least not altogether poor and lonely : ).....
 

Chish

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I think I happened to see this yesterday on BBC's home page, with a short and clear-cut title "propaganda push", of course. I was not surprised, instead I partly agreed with it---had to, as much as I knew the media's narrative and appreciated the doctors' sacrifices, because there isn't allowed really here inside China any talk about or suggestion on political reforms to prevent such problems, which every Chinese knew deep down was the cause of this to a great extent man-made calamity (yes, aside from the wild animal stuff, which is really the habit and mentality of very small group of people, the proportion of which lower than the drug addcition rate of many countries, as far as I could tell even to myself) from being repeated a third, a fourth....time.......We didn't learn a thing from the SARS in 2003, and now we are officially the most hated country in the world........but China has to recover from this and go on, a long long way to go, to find its equal footing in this very world.
meanwhile really thankful to so many members on this forum, making us feel at least not altogether poor and lonely : ).....
One big problem with this epidemic is that in the very begining, this virus is completely associated as a chinese diesease. So other countries are very stringent with procedure when it come to treating chinese even among their citizen of chinese origin. While citizen of other countries who are of non-chinese ethnicity were not under the same equally strict conditions even after telling the authorities that they have in contact with or have travelled with someone who had connection with the virus. This give rise to lost of traces and unchecked spreading of the virus of no known chinese or China connections around the world. Hope people will learn from this fatal flaw. Virus do not discriminate.
 

AndrewS

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I'm not so optimistic. From the public health perspective, other places may be worse off than China. But companies don't care about public health. What they care is to keep the factory going and supply chain moving. Compare the Chinese approach to for example the Indonesian approach, which is to not test for the virus and pretend everything is fine. With the Indonesian approach, a lot of old people are going to die but factories can be kept open because young workers are less affected by COVID-19, and in any case, factory workers are replacable.

In this outbreak, governments must choose between public health and economy. China chose public health, I'm sure a lot of multinationals are not liking the choice.

The latest estimate I've seen from Imperial College London is that over the next year, a minimum of 30% and a maximum of 70% will get the virus. That would be consistent with what we've seen happen outside of China.

So a pretend approach won't work, because the health systems will be visibly seen to collapse from the sheer number of patients.
 

solarz

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Has anyone started stocking up yet? Over here in Toronto, some Costco and Walmart are already out of rice and flour!

We bought bags of soy and mung beans. If we are forced to stay home, we can sprout the beans for veggies.
 
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