Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

Strangelove

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Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson listed seven reasons for the US to invite the World Health Organization (WHO) for COVID-19 origins investigation on Friday, including vaping-related lung disease patients in 2019 having the similar symptoms with COVID-19, evidence of infection in five states which appeared back in December 2019 and 12 countries claiming their COVID-19 "patient zero" was imported from the US, following a US official's claim that there was no reason for a US investigation.

Instead of thinking about how to control the epidemic in the US and save people's lives, some US politicians are trying to pass the buck for their own failure of COVID-19 response to China with a set-up intelligence report, which will only set back and undermine international virus tracing efforts and global cooperation against the epidemic, spokesperson Zhao Lijian said at Friday's media briefing.

US' claims that China refused to provide necessary information was only an excuse to cover up its failure in leveraging intelligence to trace the virus origins, Zhao said.

He asked the US whether the following seven reasons were considered as "reasons" for the US, since the US claimed it would support a US investigation if there were reasons.

First, the symptoms of vaping-related lung disease outbreak in Wisconsin in July 2019 were highly similar with COVID-19. Can this be a reason?

Second, according to the US NIH website, research has shown evidence of infection in five states appeared back in December 2019. Can this be a reason?

Third, US government officials sealed blood samples collected before January 2, 2020 from further testing on national security grounds.

Fourth, Florida had published data of 171 early cases occurred in January and February 2020, only for the related data to be later removed.

Fifth, there were around 200 netizens from the US or countries connected to the US claiming that they or others suspected that they were infected with COVID-19 as early as November 2019.

Sixth, 12 countries including Costa Rica and Kenya, have publicly identified their COVID-19 "patient Zero" was imported from the US.

Biosafety protective suits for handling viral diseases are hung up outside a chemical decontamination room in a biosafety level 4 training facility at Fort Detrick Photo: AP

Biosafety protective suits for handling viral diseases are hung up outside a chemical decontamination room in a biosafety level 4 training facility at Fort Detrick Photo: AP

Seventh, Fort Detrick and University of North Carolina both have poor safety records when it comes to coronavirus research. Fort Detrick was shut down by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention after a serious security incident in the fall of 2019, just before the COVID-19 outbreak.

The US should face up to legitimate questions raised by the international community, and invite the WHO to conduct a review of Fort Detrick and the University of North Carolina to trace the source of the virus and disclose the original data of early cases in the US since it's confident that it had no problem. If the US refuses to accept these conditions, it will only further expose the true face of politicizing the virus origins tracing, Zhao said.

Zhao's seven reasons came after Reuters citing an anonymous US official said if there were sound, technically credible reasons for a US investigation, the US would support it. "But there are none," the official said.

China on Tuesday for the first time officially demanded the WHO investigate Fort Detrick lab and the University of North Carolina through diplomatic channels, as Chen Xu, Permanent Representative of China to the UN Office at Geneva and other International Organizations in Switzerland, on Tuesday sent a letter to Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the Director-General of the WHO, asking the WHO to conduct an investigation in the two US locations during the next round of virus origins investigation in the spirit of fairness and justice. The letter is attached to a petition signed by more than 25 million Chinese netizens sent to the WHO demanding an investigation into the Fort Detrick lab.
 

Quickie

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I'd like to make clear my point that I never claim Chinese vaccines to be superior than western ones but they are still effective and worth vaccinated. If two doses aren't enough, take three. If remember someone said that "If one gun doesn't solve the problem, then use more guns". So if someone doesn't like China or think that Chinese vaccines are not effective then they can choose to wait for the alternative. I don't care and won't try to convince those people to take Chinese vaccines.

Really, these western MSM is unprofessional and unethical in their effort to unfairly discrediting Chinese vaccines since more people will delay their vaccination because of the negative vaccine publicity they have been purveying which will directly lead to more people not getting the protection they need.

In this way, these MSM are criminal since they directly lead to an increase in the number of unvaccinated people dying.
 

KYli

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If the West didn't approve or even recognize Chinese vaccines, why should China approve Western vaccines. The only reason why China should approve Pfizer is that Pfizer is much more superior than Chinese vaccines. Israel has proven Pfizer is not effective against Delta. Therefore, there is not much incentive for China to approve an ineffective vaccine.
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KYli

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Really, these western MSM is unprofessional and unethical in their effort to unfairly discrediting Chinese vaccines since more people will delay their vaccination because of the negative vaccine publicity they have been purveying which will directly lead to more people not getting the protection they need.

In this way, these MSM are criminal since they directly lead to an increase in the number of unvaccinated people dying.
The MSM propaganda and misinformation against Chinese and Russian vaccines have actually come back to bite them. If they didn't try so hard to discredit Chinese vaccines, then anti-vaxx groups would not have sprout out so fast and gain so much supports in the West.

Ultimately, the developing countries that don't have enough Western vaccines suffer the most due to either their governments refuse to approve or citizens refuse to inoculate with Chinese vaccines.
 

Phead128

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Yea, Westerners can't hoard their vaccines, while telling developing world that Chinese vaccines are inferior. The developing world wants ANY vaccine, and don't want to play West's stupid politically biased games.

Westerners, for all their faux outrage over human rights, would rather developing nations DIE from lack of access/supply of vaccines (e.g. Chinese) than to see them lose influence or lose diplomacy race from Chinese generosity. It's not even about saving lives, they care about more their games/ego than saving lives.

Also, China should not approve Pfizer vaccine, it should just wait until it's own mRNA is ready. WHO KNOWS , maybe West can impose an mRNA embargo, it's GOOD to support your own indigenous technology.... (e.g. see Semiconductor ban)
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Well, JT is a political creature and all he did or said was to politically pander to Modi since JT has a large swathe of Indian-Canadian voters in Canada and heck, almost the majority of his cabinet have Indian ethnic backgrounds. Not to mention that Canada is simply trying to play the Great Game of the U.S. playbook by trying to highlight the pitiful India all because of "Democracy" and not based on actual competence or achievements.
Indian Canadians = liberal vote bank for JT. Unfortunately the con(artists) are a white nationalist vote bank that often treasonously calls for ending Canadian independence.

It would be stupid for Chinese Canadians to vote for either. Hopefully NDP stops being a pushover.
 
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