Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[getready]

I can answer for Malaysia. Short answer is just pure stupidity.

Long answer is that they are:
1) Fooled by the lies from the Western MSM.
2) Rabidly Sinophobic and will never accept any facts that credits China.
3) Have a sense of superiority complex. Thinking that they deserve better than Chinese vaccines.
4) Milk Tea Alliance anti-PRC crusaders.
5) All of the above
6) Fence sitters who got peer pressured into rejecting Chinese vaccines.


That being said. There is another side of Malaysia where people readily accept Chinese vaccines. Most of them are mildly political and just don't mind. A smaller number of them are political Wumaos like me who actively seek to get Chinese vaccines. This group is large, but much less vocal. So it's hard to determine how big it is.

Is milk tea movement still a thing in SEA? The name sounds as stupid as the movement itself

 

[siegecrossbow]

Is milk tea movement still a thing in SEA? The name sounds as stupid as the movement itself

I don't see it stopping until the 2024-2025 timeframe.

 

[KYli]

Between the findings in Italy and this, I think the theory that coronavirus was circulated in the world well before Wuhan outbreak has legs.

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[Dolcevita]

Between the findings in Italy and this, I think the theory that coronavirus was circulated in the world well before Wuhan outbreak has legs.

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Why we should demand an investigation into US labs for origins of COVID-19?

What is the US afraid of? Despite having control of the media narrative.

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[JSChineseTiger]

Again, where is the citation. AFAIK flatten the curve is a term that came up in the west, it was never in use in China. The goal in China has always been total victory over the virus. I see no reason to believe the current state of affairs cannot be sustained indefinitely. For majority of 2020 and 2021 so far the lives of Chinese people within China's borders is identical to pre-pandemic, the economy has been growing at more than 6% pa and I'm not seeing any appetite from the public to squander the fruit of victory so far achieved.

I recall March last year when rest of China (as in, other than Wuhan) stood down from highest state of alert when the government judged that it was safe to do so, everyone around the world was sure it was going to be a disaster yet it all went smoothly and no new outbreak occurred. I think that's proof enough that CPC, guided by its experts are excellent judge of risk/reward. I see no signals from CPC that they are considering opening up the country, certainly not with the current wave originating from Nanjing yet to completely die down and certainly not with US recording 6 digit confirmed cases a day.

Total victory over the virus world is impractical and unnecessary. The only way for humans to have total victory over the virus world is to eliminate every single non human mammal and bird from the face of this planet. This causes an ecological disaster. And even if this can be done, humans will eventually lose their immune system and end up like aliens in War Of The Worlds, who can no longer colonize other planets due to having no immune system.

 

[HybridHypothesis]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1426924485714845696

 

[JSChineseTiger]

wtf is "Delta Plus", did they share the sequence

Delta Plus is a mutated Delta. The next mutated Delta will be called Delta Plus Plus.

 

[JSChineseTiger]

Smallpox had every opportunity to evolve into a less lethal strain in the millennia that it's been killing humans, and yet it never evolved into a less than lethal form.
We had to eradicate that bitch and thank god for that.

Comparing smallpox to coronavirus is apples and oranges. One is a DNA virus that hardly ever mutates. The other is an RNA virus that mutates like mad. No vaccine was ever developed for coronavirus before 2020 because no one cared enough to do it.

There are many pox viruses that can infect humans. Horse pox. Cow pox. Monkey pox. Vaccinia pox. All of these are very similar to smallpox except they are not as lethal.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Comparing smallpox to coronavirus is apples and oranges. One is a DNA virus that hardly ever mutates. The other is an RNA virus that mutates like mad. No vaccine was ever developed for coronavirus before 2020 because no one cared enough to do it.

There are many pox viruses that can infect humans. Horse pox. Cow pox. Monkey pox. Vaccinia pox. All of these are very similar to smallpox except they are not as lethal.

Coronavirus does not mutate like mad. it mutates less than the flu because they have error correction proteins.

 

[JSChineseTiger]

Coronavirus does not mutate like mad. it mutates less than the flu because they have error correction proteins.

RNA virus all have the potential to mutate like mad. How fast they mutate is governed by selection pressure. If more people vaccinate, the more they mutate. The use of flu shot causes influenza virus to mutate more rapidly to counter vaccination. Coronavirus did not mutate as quickly as influenza virus did because there was no vaccine for it because they are relatively mild compared to flu.