Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[HybridHypothesis]

That sounds like wishful thinking to me. Is there any evidence at all to support this view?

The original Spanish flu epidemic evolved into the weaker seasonal flu viruses we use to deal with... until those were displaced by coronavirus.

Logically speaking, it would be impossible for us to exist if viruses evolved to be more lethal and easily transmittable at the same time, since if there were such a trend the emergence of the super virus that kills everyone would be inevitable.

So this scaremongering over the hypothetical 'super corona' is completely unfounded, and is used by lockdown fetishists to advance their own agenda.

Even though its obvious that the nations warfighting capability cannot be sustained over decade long time periods if lockdowns periodically destroy the economy, and even though its obvious that the virus will become more contagious and endemic, these two simple facts elude the lockdown shills. Perhaps these people just want something to bash the West with, but this is obviously not the right tool to do so with?

 

[LesAdieux]

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Latest from NHC:
99 new confirmed cases, 52 of them imported, 47 domestic (Jiangxu 26 (Nanjing 1, Yangzhou 25), Henan 14, Hubei 4, Hunan 2, Yunnan 1)
34 new asymptomatic carriers, 29 imported, 5 domestic (Hubei 3, Hunan 2).
33 asymptomatic carriers converted to new cases (20 imported, 13 domestic)
Yangzhou is well down from peak now

and Wuhan had zero case yesterday, zero asymptomatic, zero suspected case. tourists and pass by tourists infected Wuhan this time, it seems everything is under control now.

 

[sinophilia]

This part:



That's not how evolution works.

Pathogens evolve to be less lethal because the more lethal pathogens will kill their hosts before they can spread too far.

There are two obvious problems with this:

1. There will still be mutations of lethal strains. Nothing says pathogens will avoid lethal strains. A lot of people will still die.

2. In nature, it's common for entire populations to be annihilated by a particularly virulent pathogen. It usually cannot kill all populations of a species because those populations are spread too far apart for transmission. You can see where the problem is. With modern transportation, you can reach the other side of the world in 12 hours. There's no such thing as "too far apart".

He said there's a tendency for them to evolve less lethal strains [true], not that it's impossible to evolve more lethal strains [untrue].

 

[solarz]

He said there's a tendency for them to evolve less lethal strains [true], not that it's impossible to evolve more lethal strains [untrue].

That "tendency" is meaningless for the reasons I just listed.

 

[Nutrient]

Okay, but Indian Variant Factory exists, and Deer population has 70% infection of SAR-CoV-2, where it thrives and mutate. Not to mention Bats, Civets, Dogs, Cats are all getting infected by SAR-CoV-2 virus (no symptoms), but they will thrive and mutate there as well.

Are you going to slaughter all the Dogs/Cats/Bats/Deer population to eradicate the disease? Or are you going to vaccinate all the Dogs/Cats/Bats/Deers to eradicate the disease? Realistically speaking, you cannot eradicate this disease because of the animal host reservoir population.

It can jump from bats to humans anytime (again), even if China closes it's borders to foreigners.

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I have already asked you, approximately: if SARS-CoV-2 is as endemic in animals as you claim, and easily transmissible to humans, why is China's Covid rate so low? Do answer my question before you repeat your assertions one more time.

Nothing is broken, we are just saying China should get to 100% vaccination rate, then gradually abandon lockdowns which hurt GDP and can be exploited by US CIA or foreign powers looking to destabilize China.

You say "nothing is broken" then immediately turn around and say that something is indeed broken ("lockdowns which hurt GDP [etc]"). I think you speak with forked tongue.

 

[SAC]

I wonder how many people on this forum are currently living in China. Me + ???

 

[DarkStar]

Smallpox had every opportunity to evolve into a less lethal strain in the millennia that it's been killing humans, and yet it never evolved into a less than lethal form.
We had to eradicate that bitch and thank god for that.

 

[KIENCHIN]

When people got two jabs of Sinovac or Sinopharm, they almost had no side effect but the third jab of AZ makes many feel dizzy, especially the females. Perhaps due to Delta, people are too nervous to take the 3rd jab. The health ministry advice people to take the 3rd one when their 1st ones have been 6 to 8 months. Many people took the 3rd jab when their 1st one was just about 4 months. Maybe due to limited supply of AZ. We currently have only about 1 million doses while there are up to 10 million people waiting for the jabs.

Hi Steelbird, when I had my first jab of AZ about 4hrs later, I had flu like symptoms, a massive headache and fever. On the second jab 7weeks later, I had but a mild headache and majority of people I spoke experience the same phenomenon.

 

[sinophilia]

That "tendency" is meaningless for the reasons I just listed.

The "reasons" you just listed have nothing whatsoever to do with the claim that viruses have strains that have evolved to become less lethal.

 

[DarkStar]

Tedros is really gunning for that role in Tigray

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