COMAC C919
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As I have been saying in multiple threads about multiple tech topics, testing and verification is the hardest and most time consuming part of any technology, and commercial is always more demanding of consistency and high tolerances than military or research. These are necessary teething pains for Chinese industry. The only way out is through. The C919 is a sacrificial lamb for this learning process. If COMAC is serious about learning and growing as an organization things will get easier after this.
Russia already had proven passenger aircraft systems from Tu-204.
As i said, the quality is upto debate. You and me and most out there know that the Russian solutions won't be as good ( under the lenses of global airlines).
Btw, why did MC-21 program ever source systems from US/French/Israeli providers in the first place ? Same with the PW engines.
Same reasons COMAC did, simplifies regulatory compliance and customer acquisition. Noticing a pattern?
Exactly. But even without regulatory hurdles, I think it'd be naïve to conclude that Russian systems (and avionics esp) are qualitatively as competitive as EU/US solutions(it's circular, as regulations keep up with advancements in technology). Much capital has went into the latter.
Anyway, most of us are agreeing and nodding our heads here. No use in that. Fingers crossed for C919.
Highly doubtful Russia today would have as much difficulty with quality if they went full ingenious. Those 90s and early 2000s issues with quality were a result of an ailing economy not being able to provide sufficient resources, not a lack of know how. Very different situation today.
It's better to be bad than nothing. The goal should be to make a sanctions proof domestic system. Trying for FAA regulatory approval is probably not going to happen at this point.
I doubt it. Irkut has yet to decide on a provider for Avionics ( as of 2020). How they plan to replace Collins and Honeywell is unclear. EU systems ( French, German) are another and the Ukraine situation isn't looking good.
Indeed, we may boil it rather than fry. We are also ready to wait. But where's the egg? I can't find any news about an Avionics breakthrough from Irkut. Even the sukhoi Superjet used French Avionics (Thales).
What makes passenger jets avionics so much more challenging than military transport?