COMAC C919

hero said:

domestic engine will probably be use on domestic routes and act as backup in case the west block engine sale
for overseas route is less likely as airport needs to set up additional maintenance facility for different engine which add to cost

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if cj1000 price tags/performance ratio is good it is worth setting up another facility with oversea customers.

mst said:

With Trump in power, US may ban leap engines export to China. This will definitely stop the production of C919.

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Not if the manufacturer has already delivered hundreds of engines and replacement parts to COMAC. I am sure the manufacturer and COMAC have foreseen the trouble if US will to impose ban on Leap engine, they would pre-empt any move from White House.

The manufacturer would lost more than COMAC's delay costs if they cannot recover their investment on Leap 1-C engine, i.e. Tooling cost and R&D Cost. They would try to deliver as many engine as fast as possible before the expected ban.

lcloo said:

Not if the manufacturer has already delivered hundreds of engines and replacement parts to COMAC. I am sure the manufacturer and COMAC have foreseen the trouble if US will to impose ban on Leap engine, they would pre-empt any move from White House.

The manufacturer would lost more than COMAC's delay costs if they cannot recover their investment on Leap 1-C engine, i.e. Tooling cost and R&D Cost. They would try to deliver as many engine as fast as possible before the expected ban.

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Production of Leap 1-A/B/C engines in 2024 is expected to be more then 2,000 units. And engines deliveries for in-service C-919 starts from 2023 or earlier.

A C919 aircraft arrives at Macao International Airport in Macao, south China, Nov. 7, 2024. Air China's B-919Y aircraft completed a flight to the Macao Special Administrative Region (SAR) on Thursday, marking the first visit of China's homegrown C919 jetliner to Macao, as well as the inaugural flight since the delivery of the B-919Y aircraft. (Xinhua/Cheong Kam Ka)

The aircraft, slowly taxing through the symbolic water salute, was invited to the 13th Macao Business Aviation Exhibition and will be stationed at a designated area of Macao International Airport from Friday to Sunday for display. During this period, Macao residents and visitors will have a chance to see it up close.

Among the guests welcoming the aircraft at the airport were the SAR chief executive's representative and the secretary for transport and public works, Raimundo Arrais do Rosario, and the president of Macao's civil aviation authority, Pun Wa Kin, who presented flowers to the crew and staff to congratulate them on the flight.

"This is the first time the C919 has flown the Macao route, and I'm especially proud to bring this homegrown aircraft to the people here," said Hao Xin, deputy head of the Air China C919 flight team.

"Since we received our first C919 aircraft on Aug. 29 this year, it has successfully operated on the Beijing-Shanghai and Beijing-Hangzhou routes and will soon expand to include routes such as Beijing-Wuhan," he added.



Journalists take photos of a C919 aircraft at Macao International Airport in Macao, south China, Nov. 7, 2024.(Xinhua/Cheong Kam Ka)



A journalist takes photos on the C919 aircraft at Macao International Airport in Macao, south China, Nov. 7, 2024. (Xinhua/Cheong Kam Ka)

COMAC has secured a firm order of 60 C919s from the HNA group at the Zhuhai Airshow.

COMAC signed a deal with CAE for 4 C919 and 4 C909 simulators.

lcloo said:

Not if the manufacturer has already delivered hundreds of engines and replacement parts to COMAC. I am sure the manufacturer and COMAC have foreseen the trouble if US will to impose ban on Leap engine, they would pre-empt any move from White House.

The manufacturer would lost more than COMAC's delay costs if they cannot recover their investment on Leap 1-C engine, i.e. Tooling cost and R&D Cost. They would try to deliver as many engine as fast as possible before the expected ban.

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there are a lot more than just engines, i think if the US does go that route C919 will be dead for a few years at least.

drowingfish said:

there are a lot more than just engines, i think if the US does go that route C919 will be dead for a few years at least.

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Like what?
Which key irreplaceable systems on the C919 are controlled predominantly by US companies ?
The only one I know of is honeywell, but even that doesn't take years to replace. The engine is the hardest.

drowingfish said:

there are a lot more than just engines, i think if the US does go that route C919 will be dead for a few years at least.

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They’re all made in China lol. If the US sanctions those components China just cancels the JV arrangements and the local firms collect all the money while the factories keep chugging. People shouldn’t confuse “ownership” of production with *control* of production.

When the US sanctioned Russia's MC-21 in the late 2010s they got Japanese and European companies to cut supply of carbon fiber.
Do not assume if the C919 is sanctioned only US suppliers would be affected.