COMAC C919

One pet theory I have is that the USA is deliberately throttling engine exports. They will allow maybe ~10 engines a year, but never more.

This also delays the CJ-1000A engine. If the USA banned the CFM LEAP-1C altogether, integration of the CJ-1000A would go into overdrive. A limit of ~10 engines a year delays deliveries and delays the Chinese engine.

Another possibility is that they are being deliberately careful in order to avoid a crash. At this point in the program, a crash would be devastating. The 2012 Indonesia Sukhoi Superjet 100 crash and the Boeing crashes permanently damaged both companies.

Anyone has access to Aviation Week?

Apparently 300 C919 are coming in next 7 years going by this article, based on negotiations with Honeywell.

More from the delivery ceremony to Air China and China Southern.

gelgoog said:

It is normal for production to ramp up slowly to begin with. But I would have to agree 13 aircraft in one year is too slow.
Is it supplier issues, problems at the manufacturing plant itself, or what?

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Check the first 5 years production rates of Airbus, the slow rates are normal for new companies on their initial production of the first type in the class, specifically A300, the first passenger jet made by Airbus.

Deliveries on first 5 years of Airbus operation.
1974 4 aircraft
1975 8
1976 13
1977 15
1977 15

lcloo said:

Check the first 5 years production rates of Airbus, the slow rates are normal for new companies on their initial production of the first type in the class, specifically A300, the first passenger jet made by Airbus.

Deliveries on first 5 years of Airbus operation.
1974 4 aircraft
1975 8
1976 13
1977 15
1977 15

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Didn’t Boeing say it takes 5 years to train a qualified worker? I don’t mind COMAC takes things slow to make sure the production quality is maintained.

vincent said:

Didn’t Boeing say it takes 5 years to train a qualified worker? I don’t mind COMAC takes things slow to make sure the production quality is maintained.

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I personally don't mind them pausing production till the CJ1000 is ready.

gelgoog said:

It is normal for production to ramp up slowly to begin with. But I would have to agree 13 aircraft in one year is too slow.
Is it supplier issues, problems at the manufacturing plant itself, or what?

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30 C919s are expected to roll off the production line this year, and the final assembly capacity is expected to reach 50 this year

Earlier today, the two new C919s of Air China and China Southern took off from Shanghai for Beijing Capital Airport and Guangzhou Baiyun Airport to join their respective fleets.

PopularScience said:

30 C919s are expected to roll off the production line this year, and the final assembly capacity is expected to reach 50 this year

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and that is nonsense. We are in late August and they've delivered 6 so far.

Based on the Chinese article I posted, they are expecting 13 this year, so probably 2 per month in Q4.

People, you don't need to try to justify this. They are slow right now and below where I expected them to be in 2024. Next year, they will be over 30 and need that second plant to open up.

Supplier issue is common. Airbus often have issues delivering on time. You have to talk to your suppliers and see if they can deliver on time.