COMAC C919

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KevinG said:
Does it mean only 5 airports in the world have the ground support capability for C919? I think this factor also contributes to the low sortie rate. The other big factor will be limited availability for qualified pilots and air crews.
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Not true.

C919 had landed in airports in Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand and Cambodia. And it had landed in many other airports during its flight testings.

And you don't train your pilots and air crew at the last minutes. It takes many years from signing of purchase contract to delivery of aircraft. And a competent airline would have send their pilots and aircrew to Shanghai COMAC base for training after signing of contract. And if their failed to do so, they are not worthy of being an airline operator.
 
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KevinG said:
Does it mean only 5 airports in the world have the ground support capability for C919? I think this factor also contributes to the low sortie rate. The other big factor will be limited availability for qualified pilots and air crews.
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no

airlines expand their pilot group for a particular aircraft type based on the amount of flying they would like to do. Typically about 11 pilots per aircraft once it does 8 to 10 hr block type per day.

Not the other way around.

The low sortie rate is a pure function of MU still being very cautious as the lead operator for a new airliner
 
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tphuang said:
no

airlines expand their pilot group for a particular aircraft type based on the amount of flying they would like to do. Typically about 11 pilots per aircraft once it does 8 to 10 hr block type per day.

Not the other way around.

The low sortie rate is a pure function of MU still being very cautious as the lead operator for a new airliner
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There are probably less than 11 operating C919 in the world right now. How can China Eastern train enough pilots without enough airplanes? Don't tell me you can train a pilot with Microsoft Flight Simulator.
 
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lcloo said:
Not true.

C919 had landed in airports in Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand and Cambodia. And it had landed in many other airports during its flight testings.

And you don't train your pilots and air crew at the last minutes. It takes many years from signing of purchase contract to delivery of aircraft. And a competent airline would have send their pilots and aircrew to Shanghai COMAC base for training after signing of contract. And if their failed to do so, they are not worthy of being an airline operator.
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You do understand landing at an airport for one time is far from comercial operating. Take the most basic task for example, the baggage handlers won't even know how to open C919's cargo door without specific training. They at least need to handle a real C919 once to say they learn it. But C919 is so rare that every department is fighting to train their staff.
 
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KevinG said:
You do understand landing at an airport for one time is far from comercial operating. Take the most basic task for example, the baggage handlers won't even know how to open C919's cargo door without specific training. They at least need to handle a real C919 once to say they learn it. But C919 is so rare that every department is fighting to train their staff.
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If you believe "handling at least once is enough as training" then there is nothing specific needed for training, isn't? It's like opening your new car's fuel tank hatch for the first time, you just need to read the manul for once in 1 minute. An average intellegent person can open the aircraft emergence hatch by reading the printed texts on it without any training, let alone a skilled baggage handler. Many incidents of smartass passenger opened emergence hatch are good evidence of "no training needed". This also includes refueling the aircraft. Pulling and pushing the aircraft is like experienced driver maneuvering a lorry of similar size from different brands without any prior training, the hooking up is standardized already.
 
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taxiya

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KevinG said:
There are probably less than 11 operating C919 in the world right now. How can China Eastern train enough pilots without enough airplanes? Don't tell me you can train a pilot with Microsoft Flight Simulator.
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You do realize that the ages of aircrafts of those big Chinese airlines are younger than world average? I heard only the rich gulf Arabic airlines have younger aircrafts than China. Without suddenly increased number of travellers or new routes airlines have no motivation to replace existing aircrafts on existing routes. Of course it would benifit COMAC, but why would airlines rush on a new aircraft?
 
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