COMAC C919

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China’s C919 passenger jet to come in different sizes, and AI will help optimise the design

New addition to home-grown C919 narrow-body airliner series will add nearly 50 seats to maximum capacity as Beijing keeps Boeing and Airbus in its long-term sights

But with only two deliveries so far this year, production capacity limitations mean some orders will take several years to fulfil

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by78

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C919 arrives in Urumqi to on a trial service flight to Xinjiang.

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by78

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(Continued from above...)

Demonstration flights in Xinjiang have been completed successfully, verifying C919's compatibility with Xinjiang's terrain and climate.

【多型国产商用飞机完成新疆演示飞行】近日,历时一个月、覆盖新疆全部25座运输机场的国产商用飞机新疆演示飞行顺利收官。在此期间,ARJ21、C919飞机分基地、分阶段陆续开展演示飞行,验证了国产商用飞机对新疆地区地形复杂、气候多样、天气多变、机场点多面广等特点的适应性,为后续国产商用飞机在疆运营奠定了基础

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Brunei's GallopAir has
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to purchase 15 C919s and 15 ARJ21s.

Brunei's Gallop Air places $2 bln order for China-made C919, ARJ21 jets​

September 22, 20236:13 AM EDTUpdated 5 days ago
BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN/SHANGHAI, Sept 22 (Reuters) - GallopAir, a new Brunei-based airline, plans to buy 30 aircraft from Chinese planemaker Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC), which will include the first overseas purchases of the state-backed firm's narrow-body C919 jet.

GallopAir said in a statement on Wednesday it had signed a letter of intent to purchase the aircraft, worth $2 billion in total, at a regional trade event in China last week.

The deal includes 15 orders of COMAC's ARJ21 aircraft - including its freighter and business jet variants - and 15 of the C919, which completed its maiden commercial flight in May. The C919 was developed by COMAC to rival Airbus SE's A320neo and Boeing Co's 737 MAX single-aisle jet families.

COMAC did not respond to requests for comment on the GallopAir plan. The deal was disclosed by China-based Shaanxi Tianju Investment Group, an investor in GallopAir, in a WeChat post on Monday.

GallopAir said the aircraft from COMAC will need to undergo due diligence and certification processes by Brunei's Department of Civil Aviation prior to delivery.

"Flight operations are forecasted to begin in the third quarter of 2024," GallopAir said.

Once completed, the deal would make GallopAir the second international operator of Chinese-made aircraft after Indonesian low-cost carrier TransNusa, which operates a small fleet of the ARJ21 aircraft, a predecessor to the C919.

Little is known about GallopAir, which is expected to be only the second Brunei-based airline operator after national carrier Royal Brunei Airlines. The company has said it intends to provide flight services in the Brunei Darussalam–Indonesia–Malaysia–Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area.

Reporting by Ain Bandial in Bandar Seri Begawan and Brenda Goh in Shanghai; Writing by Rozanna Latiff; Editing by Christian Schmollinger

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gelgoog

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That was to be expected. Only if the airplane was a real disaster would the orders not come.
Basically all Chinese airlines are state owned. So they will be heavily incentivized to buy a Chinese made plane if one is available.

Personally I am still waiting for CJ-1000A powered version of the aircraft with more Chinese content.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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huge news

I put this as 2nd biggest news of year for china tech after mate 60

this 1 order by MU is way more important than any of the lessor orders or brand new airlines orders
100x C919s delivered from 2024 to 2031 (8 years) means an average of 12.5x C919s per year.

That's even more great news if true. That means COMAC is ready for initial serial production of the C919 in the coming years.
 

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That was to be expected. Only if the airplane was a real disaster would the orders not come.
Basically all Chinese airlines are state owned. So they will be heavily incentivized to buy a Chinese made plane if one is available.

Personally I am still waiting for CJ-1000A powered version of the aircraft with more Chinese content.
hmm, some kind of top up order may be expected, but not necessarily this big of an order or this soon.

ARJ-21 was an immediate disaster.

You look at it from a technical point of view. I look at it from an airlines operation point of view. This is a huge deal.

100x C919s delivered from 2024 to 2031 (8 years) means an average of 12.5x C919s per year.

That's even more great news if true. That means COMAC is ready for initial serial production of the C919 in the coming years.
i mean most of the orders on COMAC order book are lessors and little airlines. None of the lessors will take their aircraft until they find a customer. So, what this means for serial production is unclear.
 

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Alright, so I tried to explain the economic rationale of airlines here. Keep in mind that nobody wants to operate 3 narrowbody fleets. It actually was a huge problem 10 years ago when CN3 were already large operators of both A320 and B737. Adding a 3rd major type would be a problem.

But now, it seems like C919 can just replace 737s in these fleets and return them to lessors or sell them
 
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