Actually, I find it very disappointing. Which part of the ARJ21 was actually designed in China?
The plane is designed in China. Having suppliers all around the world is very common. All the modern airliners are like that.
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The plane is designed in China. Having suppliers all around the world is very common. All the modern airliners are like that.
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I was referring to design, less so supplies. Companies such as Airbus and Boeing design their own fuselages and wings. On the ARJ21, the fuselage comes from the MD-90, while the wings come from Antonov. With avionics and engines coming from American companies, it begs the question: what exactly has CACC done?
they got assistant on the wings, the fuselage is not exactly the same. They have to design the plane in a way that has the best fuel economy for the designed market. I don't see what's the problem with getting avionics/engine suppliers around the world and asking others for assistant. Even Sukhoi is getting design help from Boeing and have all Western suppliers.
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Companies like Boeing & Airbus have access to all kinds of collaborations & techs around the world with most western developed economies including Japan etc from design to manufacturing. Quite simplistic to just say they 'design their own fuselages and wings'.
China completes aircraft makers' merger: report
SHANGHAI, Nov 10 (AFP) Nov 10, 2008
China has merged two major state aircraft makers as it consolidates its aerospace industry in the hope of creating a global player, state media reported on Monday.
The new company, China Aviation Industry Corp, was created by the merger of China Aviation Industry Corp. I, or AVIC I, and AVIC II, the Shanghai Securities News reported, citing company officials.
Company officials contacted by AFP would not immediately comment on the report.
The long-anticipated merger was announced in June and officially completed on Saturday, the report said.
The newly combined company hopes to see annual sales growth of 22.3 percent and annual sales of one trillion yuan (146.5 billion dollars) by 2017, the report said, citing the firm's deputy general manager Tan Ruisong.
The company has total assets of about 290 billion yuan and annual sales of about 150 billion yuan, Tan was quoted as saying.
The company, which controls 21 listed firms and has 10 business units including defence, transport planes, helicopters and engines, also aims to list its entire assets within the next five years.
China has said it aims to build large aircrafts such as passenger jets with more than 150 seats, fanning expectations that it could eventually compete against Boeing and Airbus.
The new company also holds a stake in Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, which was established in May to build jumbo jets and has developed the country's first home-made regional aircraft, the ARJ21.
All rights reserved. © 2005 Agence France-Presse.
SHANGHAI, Nov 10 (AFP) Nov 10, 2008
China has merged two major state aircraft makers as it consolidates its aerospace industry in the hope of creating a global player, state media reported on Monday.
The new company, China Aviation Industry Corp, was created by the merger of China Aviation Industry Corp. I, or AVIC I, and AVIC II, the Shanghai Securities News reported, citing company officials.
Company officials contacted by AFP would not immediately comment on the report.
The long-anticipated merger was announced in June and officially completed on Saturday, the report said.
The newly combined company hopes to see annual sales growth of 22.3 percent and annual sales of one trillion yuan (146.5 billion dollars) by 2017, the report said, citing the firm's deputy general manager Tan Ruisong.
The company has total assets of about 290 billion yuan and annual sales of about 150 billion yuan, Tan was quoted as saying.
The company, which controls 21 listed firms and has 10 business units including defence, transport planes, helicopters and engines, also aims to list its entire assets within the next five years.
China has said it aims to build large aircrafts such as passenger jets with more than 150 seats, fanning expectations that it could eventually compete against Boeing and Airbus.
The new company also holds a stake in Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, which was established in May to build jumbo jets and has developed the country's first home-made regional aircraft, the ARJ21.
All rights reserved. © 2005 Agence France-Presse.
Interesting development, looks like MA-60 just keeps scoring export deals. For a plane that's so unimpressive, this does require a lot of sales pitch. btw, I think the importance here is that these export deals gives AVIC-1 experience in after sales support + business contacts for future (more advanced) airliners like ARJ-21, MA-700 and C-919.
a new amphibious plane “海鸥”300's blueprints I guess passed the examination. It hopes to get certification by 2011 and eventually have a production rate of 50/year.
there article is here
中评社北京6月5日电／中航工业集团网站消息：日前，“海鸥”300轻型水陆两栖飞机研制技术方案评审会在六○五所召开，来自工信部、中航工业、通飞公司、一飞院等方面的参审专家一致通过“海鸥”300研制技术方案，认为六○五研究所作为总设计师单位提出的“海鸥”300轻型水陆两栖飞机研制技术方案具备较好先进性和可行性。
“海鸥”300飞机采用单船身布局型式，机翼为大展弦比梯形翼，机翼翼尖设有翼尖小翼；十字型尾翼布置在机身尾部。该飞机基本型为可载4-6 名乘客的客运型，配置有高性能的TIO-540-A2C型发动机和先进航空仪表设备。飞机适合在城乡地区，特别是在近海、内陆的江河湖泊、水库等水源丰富地区广泛使用，具有环境适应性好、使用维护成本低、用途广泛等优势，可用于公务飞行、飞行员培训、旅游娱乐、货物运输、缉毒缉私、海岸巡逻、搜索与救护、环境监测、森林巡防等。
据悉，“海鸥”300轻型水陆两栖飞机是六○五所集多年来在水上飞机、水陆两栖飞机领域的研制经验和专业技术优势进行创新设计，具有自主知识产权的多用途轻型水陆两栖飞机。该飞机的研制将完善我国通用航空飞机系列，填补轻型水陆两栖飞机的研制空白，为通用航空用户提供一种性能先进、用途广泛、适应性强、成本低的水陆两栖飞机。
“海鸥”300飞机计划在2011年取得中国民航CCAR23部型号合格证，并交付用户使用，在“十二五”中期形成年产50架的生产能力。
Looks too small to replace SH-5.
there article is here
中评社北京6月5日电／中航工业集团网站消息：日前，“海鸥”300轻型水陆两栖飞机研制技术方案评审会在六○五所召开，来自工信部、中航工业、通飞公司、一飞院等方面的参审专家一致通过“海鸥”300研制技术方案，认为六○五研究所作为总设计师单位提出的“海鸥”300轻型水陆两栖飞机研制技术方案具备较好先进性和可行性。
“海鸥”300飞机采用单船身布局型式，机翼为大展弦比梯形翼，机翼翼尖设有翼尖小翼；十字型尾翼布置在机身尾部。该飞机基本型为可载4-6 名乘客的客运型，配置有高性能的TIO-540-A2C型发动机和先进航空仪表设备。飞机适合在城乡地区，特别是在近海、内陆的江河湖泊、水库等水源丰富地区广泛使用，具有环境适应性好、使用维护成本低、用途广泛等优势，可用于公务飞行、飞行员培训、旅游娱乐、货物运输、缉毒缉私、海岸巡逻、搜索与救护、环境监测、森林巡防等。
据悉，“海鸥”300轻型水陆两栖飞机是六○五所集多年来在水上飞机、水陆两栖飞机领域的研制经验和专业技术优势进行创新设计，具有自主知识产权的多用途轻型水陆两栖飞机。该飞机的研制将完善我国通用航空飞机系列，填补轻型水陆两栖飞机的研制空白，为通用航空用户提供一种性能先进、用途广泛、适应性强、成本低的水陆两栖飞机。
“海鸥”300飞机计划在2011年取得中国民航CCAR23部型号合格证，并交付用户使用，在“十二五”中期形成年产50架的生产能力。
Looks too small to replace SH-5.
June 8 (Bloomberg) -- Xi’an Aircraft International Corp.
said it signed a memorandum of understanding to supply six parts
for a big passenger jet being developed in China.
Xi’an Aicraft will be the sole supplier of the parts to
Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China, which is developing the
COMAC 919 plane, the company said in a statement to the Shenzhen
stock exchange today.
Xi’an Aircraft is one of the first nine suppliers chosen by
the airplane builder through bidding, the statement said.
more work for XAC, although it's not the final assembler, which is done in Shanghai.
said it signed a memorandum of understanding to supply six parts
for a big passenger jet being developed in China.
Xi’an Aicraft will be the sole supplier of the parts to
Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China, which is developing the
COMAC 919 plane, the company said in a statement to the Shenzhen
stock exchange today.
Xi’an Aircraft is one of the first nine suppliers chosen by
the airplane builder through bidding, the statement said.
more work for XAC, although it's not the final assembler, which is done in Shanghai.