Chinese Video/Computer Games

tamsen_ikard

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A recent discussion around Chinese vs. Japanese anime has made me realize a couple of things.

First, Chinese animation is already popular globally, but via video games, rather than TV/movie format. People waiting for the grand renaissance of Chinese animation in TV/movie format are missing the forest for the trees. Youths today watch short format videos on Tik Tok and play mobile games like Genshin Impact. You shouldn't be expecting Chinese Dragon Ball Z.

Second, there is starting to be (or always was) a "Chinese anime style" that is clearly derived from Japanese anime but also distinct from it. It's similar to the American anime or "Amerime" shown in TV series like Avatar, games like League of Legends and Overwatch. The best example of this style is the 2.5D mobile gacha games, where I think it began to distinguish itself from Japanese anime in the transition from traditional 2D to 2.5D.
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I would never think this was Japanese

Third, the wild success of this wave of Chinese animation - where as almost all previous attempts failed - is due to the emergence of new start-ups and unicorns in the Chinese entertainment industry, like Mihoyo, Papergames, Kuro, Hypergryph, Manjuu, and others, all led/founded by young CEOs and executives. It is importantly not a product of the dinosaur traditional animation industry in China that still dominates much of Chinese TV animation, and which are managed like state owned companies.

These observations once again high light the importance of start up culture & youth leadership to the future success of the Chinese entertainment & services economy.

I think you are not well informed on this matter. Chinese Anime or Donghua is very popular these days. Plenty of Anime websites now have hosted Donghua and several Donghua have gotten mainstream popularity around the globe. Two very popular ones that comes to my mind are Link Click and Douluo Dalu. Other ones like Record of Mortal's Journey to Immortality, A Will Eternal are also quite well viewed as well. Yes, they are not as well known as Japanese Anime yet, but that's cause they have only started production maybe 5 years ago and do not have the long exposure that Japanese Anime have had. Anime used to be similarly unknown in the 90s.

I think Chinese Donghua will continue to get mainstream popularity as the time goes on and by next 10 years it will be quite equal to Japanese Anime in terms viewership.
 

Index

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Huh, no? Chinese and Japanese are absolutely not the same ethnicity. Stop this 以倭代华 nonsense.
There is about the same difference between us as between Anglo and French or Anglo and German.

China shoulders the same role for Asia as the British empire or America shoulders for the European ethnicities. Japan today have not have been pacified yet, but the truth is that we all belong under 1 roof. The "value" of Japan, the privileges Japanese will have around the world, and indeed for other Asian sub-ethnicities as well, is tied to China continuing to expand as the world's strongest country.

America is also unafraid of subsuming into them French animation, Jewish Hollywood execs etc. Is that 以犹代美? Lol no

The leading power of a group of cultures can take whatever traits/inventions of the ones under it's umbrella, to enhance them for the purposes of increasing integration, or because they had an effective invention that can be further improved on.
 

AssassinsMace

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This reminds me of the Sierra Club which was a prominent environmental group. These days you hardly hear about them. Maybe because they couldn't hide their true colors. They would file lawsuits to block construction on anything in order to get an environmental review done. Problem was the Sierra Club was getting the contracts to do the environmental review getting paid probably millions at a time. And then they would hire their people aka friends to help do this review. People are wondering why all these game journalists are joining in and singing the same tune on sketchy allegations. Because they're probably getting paid to do it. I wonder if Sweet Baby Inc. demanded an all expense paid trip from Game Science to China just to offer their services where they would demand creative control and get $7 million for it. It sounds more organize crime or mafia to what they're doing. Demand protection money... from them. I wonder why no authorities are going after Sweet Baby Inc. with racketeering charges. Maybe because Western gaming companies have capitulated so no crime committed.
 

Index

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This reminds me of the Sierra Club which was a prominent environmental group. These days you hardly hear about them. Maybe because they couldn't hide their true colors. They would file lawsuits to block construction on anything in order to get an environmental review done. Problem was the Sierra Club was getting the contracts to do the environmental review getting paid probably millions at a time. And then they would hire their people aka friends to help do this review. People are wondering why all these game journalists are joining in and singing the same tune on sketchy allegations. Because they're probably getting paid to do it. I wonder if Sweet Baby Inc. demanded an all expense paid trip from Game Science to China just to offer their services where they would demand creative control and get $7 million for it. It sounds more organize crime or mafia to what they're doing. Demand protection money... from them. I wonder why no authorities are going after Sweet Baby Inc. with racketeering charges. Maybe because Western gaming companies have capitulated so no crime committed.
Seems to be nothing but an op by the US government to control their own media according to their own specifications. No Asians allowed, to shape public opinion for their "all of society war". And also keep white Americans as frustrated as possible, so they are easy to manipulate.

Well, with China now having a top level game industry, US is about to learn that while it has jurisdiction to manipulate media at home, they have no such influences at all over our country, and never will. Lets see who can create the better products.
 

Randomuser

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Seems to be nothing but an op by the US government to control their own media according to their own specifications. No Asians allowed, to shape public opinion for their "all of society war". And also keep white Americans as frustrated as possible, so they are easy to manipulate.

Well, with China now having a top level game industry, US is about to learn that while it has jurisdiction to manipulate media at home, they have no such influences at all over our country, and never will. Lets see who can create the better products.
Much like semiconductors, gaming is a racket controlled by the western mafia.

Unfortunately unlike semiconductors, there is a gaming journalist mafia to deal with as well. They only allow "certain" products to stand out.

For example Cyberpunk 2077 and Starfield were literally unfinished products when they came out. Technical bugs made them unplayable at times. Yet they still got over 85 rating anyway at the time of launch.
 
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Eventine

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I think you are not well informed on this matter. Chinese Anime or Donghua is very popular these days. Plenty of Anime websites now have hosted Donghua and several Donghua have gotten mainstream popularity around the globe. Two very popular ones that comes to my mind are Link Click and Douluo Dalu. Other ones like Record of Mortal's Journey to Immortality, A Will Eternal are also quite well viewed as well. Yes, they are not as well known as Japanese Anime yet, but that's cause they have only started production maybe 5 years ago and do not have the long exposure that Japanese Anime have had. Anime used to be similarly unknown in the 90s.

I think Chinese Donghua will continue to get mainstream popularity as the time goes on and by next 10 years it will be quite equal to Japanese Anime in terms viewership.
They’re not nearly as popular as Chinese anime style games. I actually follow the Chinese animation scene pretty closely and none can claim the sort of world renown that Mihoyo games can. There’s far more success appealing to new format media than traditional because that’s where the youth market actually is both in China and outside.
 

proelite

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Much like semiconductors, gaming is a racket controlled by the western mafia.

Unfortunately unlike semiconductors, there is a gaming journalist mafia to deal with as well. They only allow "certain" products to stand out.

For example Cyberpunk 2077 and Starfield were literally unfinished products when they came out. Technical bugs made them unplayable at times. Yet they still got over 85 rating anyway at the time of launch.

Fortunately, unlike semis, the US won't be able to do export control or restrict Chinese games from entering the Western market via tariffs or national security measures.
 

tamsen_ikard

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Fortunately, unlike semis, the US won't be able to do export control or restrict Chinese games from entering the Western market via tariffs or national security measures.
They could easily villify it in western media and western platforms to such an extent that it becomes embarassing or taboo to host or publish Chinese games. You underestimate the level of pettiness they can show if they get desperate enough.
 
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