Chinese Trainer Aircraft (JL-8, JL-9, JL-10 (L-15), etc.)

zuhe

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

For Venezuela is a total of a system of 10 o 11 radars JYL-1, supported by the airplanes L-11/K-8 for the fight against the drug trafficking, and for the air defense Su-30MK2 and systems of antiaircraft missiles (S-300, Tor-1m, among others).
 

Semi-Lobster

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

For Venezuela is a total of a system of 10 o 11 radars JYL-1, supported by the airplanes L-11/K-8 for the fight against the drug trafficking, and for the air defense Su-30MK2 and systems of antiaircraft missiles (S-300, Tor-1m, among others).

So these will be powered by the WS-11 then? Has Venezuela bought any weapons systems for these aircraft?
 

zuhe

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

Greetings:

If the K-8/L-11 Venezuelan will have plants motor Chinese WS-11, as well as systems of Chinese weapons as the missile air-air PL-7.

An image of the possible camouflage of the L-11 Venezuelans:
k8ven.JPG
 

Semi-Lobster

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

Greetings:

If the K-8/L-11 Venezuelan will have plants motor Chinese WS-11, as well as systems of Chinese weapons as the missile air-air PL-7.

An image of the possible camouflage of the L-11 Venezuelans:
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If it is going to be equipped with the PL-7 then it WILL have an onboard weaponised radar then! Does anybody know what it will be using?
 

zuhe

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

Greetings:

But the PL-7 is a missile of short reach of guides to GO, does not need radar, these is an image of a K-8E of Egypt with its systems of of weapons:
k8armamentsgo8.jpg


Specifications PL-7

* Length - 2.74 m
* Diameter - 165 mm
* Wingspan - 0.66 m
* Weight - 89 kg
* Warhead - 12.5 kg
* Speed - Mach 2.5
* Range - 7 km
* Guidance - IR
Now that you know you about the theoretical possibility to endow to the K-8/L-11 of a radar in one of its four backups?
 

tphuang

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basically, L-15 is finally getting its engine AI-225, there are some boasting of the engine and L-15, but nothing more than that.
 

Semi-Lobster

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basically, L-15 is finally getting its engine AI-225, there are some boasting of the engine and L-15, but nothing more than that.

I'm surprised the article did not play up Ukraine's interest in joining the L-15 program, perhaps talks have stalled? Anyway though, if China had to go for a foriegn turbofan engine, Ivchenko-Progress is certainly one of the most dependable around. Afterall, they've been offering servicing and maintenance programs for the venerable L-39 for decades now, the vast majority of which aer still airworthy and continue to see heavy service. Ironically enough, today by chance I saw a Volga-Dnepr Airlines Antonov An-124 (which are powered by Ivchenko-Progress D-18 turbofans) fly over my head about to land, it was amazingly huge, I wish I hadn't forgotten my camera.
 
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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

saw this on CDF
L15已实现批量生产

洪都航空董事长吴方辉就资产注入和整体上市等热点问题回答了中国证券报记者的提问。

针对市场关于西飞国际打算进行定向增发和资产注入的传闻,孟祥凯明确表示董事会没有相关讨论。吴方辉则表示,在重组后的中航集团防务平台中,洪都航空是唯一的上市公司,因此要充分发挥上市公司的作用,参与中航集团的整体的战略思考。

吴方辉在会后接受中国证券报记者单独采访时还就L-15“猎鹰”高级教练机等市场关心的热点问题作出回应。他表示,L-15订单推进顺利,目前主要客户来自委内瑞拉以及亚洲和非洲,回款通过集团内部进行。L-15“猎鹰”高级教练机是由中航二集团属下的江西洪都航空工业集团公司自主研发,是一种融合了多项最新航空技术的新一代超音速喷气式教练机,目前已经实现批量生产。
Basically, just saying that L-15 will be getting orders, the main customers are Venezuela + Asian and African countries. And that L-15 is ready for mass production.
 

Semi-Lobster

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

saw this on CDF
L15已实现批量生产

洪都航空董事长吴方辉就资产注入和整体上市等热点问题回答了中国证券报记者的提问。

针对市场关于西飞国际打算进行定向增发和资产注入的传闻,孟祥凯明确表示董事会没有相关讨论。吴方辉则表示,在重组后的中航集团防务平台中,洪都航空是唯一的上市公司,因此要充分发挥上市公司的作用,参与中航集团的整体的战略思考。

吴方辉在会后接受中国证券报记者单独采访时还就L-15“猎鹰”高级教练机等市场关心的热点问题作出回应。他表示,L-15订单推进顺利,目前主要客户来自委内瑞拉以及亚洲和非洲,回款通过集团内部进行。L-15“猎鹰”高级教练机是由中航二集团属下的江西洪都航空工业集团公司自主研发,是一种融合了多项最新航空技术的新一代超音速喷气式教练机,目前已经实现批量生产。
Basically, just saying that L-15 will be getting orders, the main customers are Venezuela + Asian and African countries. And that L-15 is ready for mass production.

Hmm, this article is throwing out a lot of question marks. I can see Venezuela but what are African countries going to be doing with a highly advance LIFT trainer thats probably more advanced than anything they currently field? These are the same countries who only afew YEARS ago were buying J-7 variants. An attack/multi-role variant has never been announced, nor does the article make mention of such variants. Also talk of the L-15 going into mass production is strange as it has, as far as I know, not recieved orders domestically and in fact some high-ups in the PLAAF did not like how reliant it was on foriegn components.
 

PrOeLiTeZ

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Re: JL-15 and other trainers

L-15 can also be used as a short range light fighter, for the africans. its a trainer and fighter, so they save on purchasing 2 seperate aircrafts. You can see that China tends to export some of its hardware before its inducted in their own. Howziters are perfect example. One of my possible thoughts are that they export hardware and let other countries use it to see how it goes in combat, (since china currently isnt in any) and recieves feedback and then further modifies it then inducts it in their inventory. this thought is only for some military platforms though.
 
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