Chinese Soft Power and Media Discussion and Updates

coolgod

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I think there are English dubbed Nezha 2, it doesn't sound as good as original chinese and it will miss out on all the funny Chinese dialects. When you buy your tickets make sure it is in Chinese and not English dubs.

Actually disregard my previous point about Nezha 2 dubs, I got it confused with Nezha 1 scenes. I think there will be dubs eventually, but the recent screening of Nezha 2 in the west should all be in Chinese with English subs, even if the cinema doesn't explicit say so.

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There is also a new dragon lady in town.
 
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SDtom

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I was a bit apprehensive about modern adaptation of Nezha changing the story too much....
For me, remakes are infinitely better than remasters. For example, those basic Jin Yong TV-series/movies remasters are getting boring and stilled, same thing over and over again. Someone needs to remake them instead, keeping the overarching plot but add/change/remove side stories, characters and conflicts to increase the appeals, connections, and emotions of modern viewers. But nope, the next JY adaptions will be probably another remaster, just with different actors and fanciers clothing.
 

Temstar

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Actually disregard my previous point about Nezha 2 dubs, I got it confused with Nezha 1 scenes. I think there will be dubs eventually, but the recent screening of Nezha 2 in the west should all be in Chinese with English subs, even if the cinema doesn't explicit say so.

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There is also a new dragon lady in town.
Fun fact 1: Tang Sanzang's horse is named Ao Lie and is the third son of the dragon king of the west, so in this cinematic universe she'll be his mum.

Fun fact 2: 龙女, Guanyin's acolyte and the one that always appear together as a pair with Red Boy is Ao Guang's daughter and Ao Bing's younger sister. Hence she is often depicted as not happy to see Nezha since traditionally Nezha killed her older brother. Generally in her story she's curious about humans and sneaks out of the dragon palace to go to the surface world and either gets caught in a net by fishermen or gets caught on land when she uncontrollably changes shape back into dragon/fish due to getting wet accidentally. Red Boy comes to save her and she gives him a conch shell as token of friendship. Hence all the jokes about this time around Ao Bing accidentally picked up his sister's role and looks/dresses/acts like a girl and Nezha is the one wearing the pants in that pairing.

In Feirenzai Red Boy is depicted as idolizing Nezha and even had a crush on him when he thought Nezha was a girl. It makes a lot of sense since the two of them are alike in a lot of ways and Nezha is like a powered up version of Red Boy down to both of them mastering sumadhi fire.
 
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siegecrossbow

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Actually disregard my previous point about Nezha 2 dubs, I got it confused with Nezha 1 scenes. I think there will be dubs eventually, but the recent screening of Nezha 2 in the west should all be in Chinese with English subs, even if the cinema doesn't explicit say so.

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There is also a new dragon lady in town.

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For anyone else following this discussion, the most important is bolded

Why do we care what whether people like what we look like outside of Asia?
Women's sexual preferences are universal and has no nationality. And, the CPC wants soft power so they'll need to adapt.

The West loves when China castrates their own men's sexual appeal by being nerdy scrawny incels with bowlcuts and glasses. The West loves people like you because you keep China weak.

I want Chinese men to become more masculine, dominate, and succeed. The West hates people like me because I help China grow stronger.

I think Terminater 2 is ugly shit and Nezha is a masterpiece because I'm not a white-worshipper & It's white trash.
I re-read what I wrote. My comment was not about the movie. I can see how it can come across that way. I haven't watched the movie. My comment was about the main character design only, which is a super ugly half boy / half girl.

This is one of the staff members on Ne Zha 2
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He says that Chinese people grew up looking up to Disney and Pixar. Instead of calling it "ugly shit" because it came from the West, they recognized the quality and tried to learn. That's a healthy productive mindset. You reject other's achievements as "white worshipping" and refuse to learn. That mindset is insane.
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Your false claim, "Terminator 2 is ugly shit", perfectly captures your consistent dishonesty.
You are a hyper nationalist that lives inside a fantasy world. You reject reality with denial, lies, and insults. Here are some examples:
1. Terminator 2 is currently at the top of all action movies ever made.
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yet you reject reality and call it "ugly shit" / '"white trash"

2. You did the same thing over the definition of soft power recently. You rejected standard definitions in favor of your own definition that no one in the field uses.

3. You also did it by spinning China's obvious PR failure against the West's atrocity propaganda about Xinjiang as a "success".

4. You are doing it now by falsely accusing me of being a "white worshipper" even though I constantly tell everyone to end white worship.

5. You deny effective universal communication tactics work by falsely claiming ", they are stupid and they communicate best with stupid people.". It's worked very well on Chinese people for decades. Does that mean you think Chinese people are stupid people?

It's not what I think. It's the results at the box office. So artistically speaking, you're blind and worship foreign films over high-grossing Chinese films.
See the clarification above: "My comment was about the main character design only,"
You're a broken record. You twist everything I say into an "insecurity". You're blinded by hyper nationalism. Only mindless slobbering praise for Ne Zha is allowed. Anything less than burning all copies of Terminator 2 is "white worship" to you.

What? That there's a wikipedia page for acting white? LOL
Yes. Try reading it instead of dodging

I agree that China should absolutely stop white worship and you can start with yourself.
Nothing to fix. I don't white worship. I'm actively cutting down Western power in China. Go work on the white worship epidemic in China.

Did you even see the video of foreigners looking at this guy?
The video where the guy looks like a very tall, muscular, and handsome model?

That guy can be wearing a Nazi uniform and pick up the grand daughters of holocaust survivors, but sure, the women must be crazy for floral patterns /sarcasm. But that's irrelevant to the other 95% of men who don't have the looks to pull it off.

Men's clothing stores rarely sell floral patterns because it generally hurts their chances with women and get laughed at by men (in any country).

This looks like an ad. You're a dupe if you believe random and unusually attractive women on the streets would suddenly change clothes (where?) and walk around with a stranger on camera. They are probably paid models. This guy is obviously paid to promote Chinese clothes, which is fine. Don't try to pretend this is organic.

That sounds like you just described yourself. Men who are successful with women understand that every style can be built to be successful.
Delusional people out of touch with reality believe every style can be successful. Men that succeed with attractive women generally converge towards mostly masculine archetypes. Major outliers are rare. Every man who actually succeeds with women knows this.

Your claim falls flat to everyone except inexperienced guys.

Science is absolute power; it has no style and it has no nationality.
How convenient for you to refine things. Anything you do "is universal" / "has no nationality" even though all branches of science came from the West including the subject you study.

Ok.

Effective communication principles are universal. It has no nationality.
Women's sexual preferences are universal. It has no nationality.

I said don't change your style to please others.
Adopting effective communication tactics to defeat the West at information warfare is not "adopting a style to please others".

Effective communication tactics are universal. It has no nationality.


Principles like the
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work everywhere.

A China stubbornly repeating failed communication tactics is what pleases the West. The West loves people like you because you keep China weak.

I teach China effective tactics to win at information warfare to defeat the West. The West hates people like me because I help China grow stronger and cut down Western power.


Calling "Dongbei floral patterns and permed bowlcuts feminine" is a fact like describing needles as sharp. If I saw white men wearing floral patterns, I would call it gay too. None of this is "pleasing others". It's understanding what works and what doesn't for building attraction. It's not a woman's sexual fantasy to get swept off her feet by a bouquet of flowers with arms. It might be yours.

Moving to merit from nepotism is a global trend, not a Chinese one.
Wake up from la la land. Donald Trump (The Führer is a pussy-grabbing con artist who ran casinos into the ground. He sleeps with a copy on Mein Kampf under his toupee) has become president of usa...twice. He even inserted his unqualified family members into positions of power. mUh mErItItOcRaCy!
 
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