Chinese Soft Power and Media Discussion and Updates

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If our views are aligned, I'm not sure what you have to complain about.
In my eyes, all things are moving in the right direction; I am happy with past progress and I am very happy with current progress. Many things take time, however many of your posts seem like you want all the fruits now. This is the point I am trying to make.
Yes, things are moving in the right direction. It's not that I want everything now. I just see a lot of easily avoidable mistakes. That's what I keep pointing out. For example, white worship in the media should removed completely. It hurts Chinese children's self esteem and leads to foreigners abusing China with unearned white privilege.
 

tygyg1111

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Women's sexual preferences are universal and has no nationality. And, the CPC wants soft power so they'll need to adapt.

The West loves when China castrates their own men's sexual appeal by being nerdy scrawny incels with bowlcuts and glasses. The West loves people like you because you keep China weak.

I want Chinese men to become more masculine, dominate, and succeed. The West hates people like me because I help China grow stronger.


I re-read what I wrote. My comment was not about the movie. I can see how it can come across that way. I haven't watched the movie. My comment was about the main character design only, which is a super ugly half boy / half girl.

This is one of the staff members on Ne Zha 2
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He says that Chinese people grew up looking up to Disney and Pixar. Instead of calling it "ugly shit" because it came from the West, they recognized the quality and tried to learn. That's a healthy productive mindset. You reject other's achievements as "white worshipping" and refuse to learn. That mindset is insane.
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Your false claim, "Terminator 2 is ugly shit", perfectly captures your consistent dishonesty.
You are a hyper nationalist that lives inside a fantasy world. You reject reality with denial, lies, and insults. Here are some examples:
1. Terminator 2 is currently at the top of all action movies ever made.
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yet you reject reality and call it "ugly shit" / '"white trash"

2. You did the same thing over the definition of soft power recently. You rejected standard definitions in favor of your own definition that no one in the field uses.

3. You also did it by spinning China's obvious PR failure against the West's atrocity propaganda about Xinjiang as a "success".

4. You are doing it now by falsely accusing me of being a "white worshipper" even though I constantly tell everyone to end white worship.

5. You deny effective universal communication tactics work by falsely claiming ", they are stupid and they communicate best with stupid people.". It's worked very well on Chinese people for decades. Does that mean you think Chinese people are stupid people?


See the clarification above: "My comment was about the main character design only,"
You're a broken record. You twist everything I say into an "insecurity". You're blinded by hyper nationalism. Only mindless slobbering praise for Ne Zha is allowed. Anything less than burning all copies of Terminator 2 is "white worship" to you.


Yes. Try reading it instead of dodging


Nothing to fix. I don't white worship. I'm actively cutting down Western power in China. Go work on the white worship epidemic in China.


The video where the guy looks like a very tall, muscular, and handsome model?

That guy can be wearing a Nazi uniform and pick up the grand daughters of holocaust survivors, but sure, the women must be crazy for floral patterns /sarcasm. But that's irrelevant to the other 95% of men who don't have the looks to pull it off.

Men's clothing stores rarely sell floral patterns because it generally hurts their chances with women and get laughed at by men (in any country).

This looks like an ad. You're a dupe if you believe random and unusually attractive women on the streets would suddenly change clothes (where?) and walk around with a stranger on camera. They are probably paid models. This guy is obviously paid to promote Chinese clothes, which is fine. Don't try to pretend this is organic.


Delusional people out of touch with reality believe every style can be successful. Men that succeed with attractive women generally converge towards mostly masculine archetypes. Major outliers are rare. Every man who actually succeeds with women knows this.

Your claim falls flat to everyone except inexperienced guys.


How convenient for you to refine things. Anything you do "is universal" / "has no nationality" even though all branches of science came from the West including the subject you study.

Ok.

Effective communication principles are universal. It has no nationality.
Women's sexual preferences are universal. It has no nationality.


Adopting effective communication tactics to defeat the West at information warfare is not "adopting a style to please others".

Effective communication tactics are universal. It has no nationality.


Principles like the
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work everywhere.

A China stubbornly repeating failed communication tactics is what pleases the West. The West loves people like you because you keep China weak.

I teach China effective tactics to win at information warfare to defeat the West. The West hates people like me because I help China grow stronger and cut down Western power.


Calling "Dongbei floral patterns and permed bowlcuts feminine" is a fact like describing needles as sharp. If I saw white men wearing floral patterns, I would call it gay too. None of this is "pleasing others". It's understanding what works and what doesn't for building attraction. It's not a woman's sexual fantasy to get swept off her feet by a bouquet of flowers with arms. It might be yours.


Wake up from la la land. Donald Trump (The Führer is a pussy-grabbing con artist who ran casinos into the ground. He sleeps with a copy on Mein Kampf under his toupee) has become president of usa...twice. He even inserted his unqualified family members into positions of power. mUh mErItItOcRaCy!
Not sure if you are just arguing for the sake of arguing now.

Just a couple of points:
- The best way to win is to play your own game, and entice others to play it - that's what China is doing, playing to their strengths instead of playing someone else's game. This is why the last 2 months we have seen 2 sixth gens, Tiktok 'revolution', mass exodus to XHS, and now Deepseek.
- Complaining is not an effective way to fight whatever it is you want to fight. Offer a viable solution
- Whatever we're discussing on this forum, it is 99.999% likely that the people governing China have thought of it too, and have much better ideas being implemented
- Terminator 2 was groundbreaking for its time. If it came out today it would be laughed out of the cinemas. Same thing with the Beatles - they wouldn't make it past the local radio station if released today
- Maybe @manqiangrexue actually is a 9/10, and pulls chicks whilst wearing a floral pattern suit on the reg

And one last thing:
I teach China effective tactics to win at information warfare to defeat the West. The West hates people like me because I help China grow stronger and cut down Western power.
Swap "West" and "China", and this sounds just like the ranting of a 4 chan incel on twitter with 34 followers and 1000+ following.
 

tygyg1111

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Yes, things are moving in the right direction. It's not that I want everything now. I just see a lot of easily avoidable mistakes. That's what I keep pointing out. For example, white worship in the media should removed completely. It hurts Chinese children's self esteem and leads to foreigners abusing China with unearned white privilege.
That's something that can't be changed overnight, however I prefer a constructive attitude than a negative one.
It's like the management problem - what's better, a person that gives you 100 reasons why something can't be done, or the person that offers a solution on how the problem can be solved moving forward?
 

name

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That's something that can't be changed overnight, however I prefer a constructive attitude than a negative one.
It's like the management problem - what's better, a person that gives you 100 reasons why something can't be done, or the person that offers a solution on how the problem can be solved moving forward?
I don't just complain though...

As an example, I listed a few universal communication principles such as being first, framing, word choice, repetition, simplification, working on emotion, and social proof. I see China doing these things poorly.
 

GiantPanda

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China's gonna do what China's gonna do. It is obvious the Tik Tok exodus to XHS (China's most liberal white guy loving forum) had changed the narrative both in China and out.

The thing is China's females tend to move the needle on looks for both men and women. Obviously, guys like Wu Jing, Donnie Yen and Wolf Warriors in general.

But girls like the "little fresh meat." It is their aesthetics on Douyin and Chinese Drama that drove the major growth in Chinese pop culture to SE Asia. It is what it is.

The Wolf Warrior 2, Wandering Earth and Operation Red Sea branch of things have their moments at the top too.

The Chinese market is big enough for both. And that market in the end is what will change perceptions. Without the breakout success of BM Wukong and Nezha 2, there would be no discussion period. Grow and everything will fall into place.

That is the dao, the way, of how everything has progressed in China since Deng. Grow until they cannot ignore, dismiss or break you.


 

Wrought

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Pour one out for all the "independent" NGOs going under without US funding.

Many China human rights and democracy groups became heavily dependent on U.S. funding over the years because private foundations and corporate donors avoided these causes, while other governments prefer to back purely humanitarian projects, said Wang. There is no public breakdown of how much USAID funding went to specific organisations or projects. Many China rights NGOs choose not to disclose exact funding sources to avoid Beijing's accusations of being overly influenced by foreign governments.

Can't imagine where Beijing got that idea.

Freedom House received $80 million in U.S. government grants in 2024, making up 88% of yearly revenue, its financial report shows.
Seven staffers of the New York-based China Labor Watch, founded by a veteran China labour campaigner, Li Qiang, to monitor abuses in Chinese factories, have been furloughed. Some on temporary work visas face deportation to China, Li said. Roughly 90% of the group's budget came from the U.S. government, beginning from 2021. Li estimates running costs this year at $1 million, up from $800,000 last year.

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