Chinese Soft Power and Media Discussion and Updates

manqiangrexue

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IMO US still enjoys substantial militarily advantages over China,
Questionable, depending on theater of combat.
as well in terms of cultural influence.
I said that, old boys' club.
Economically, they are more or less on even terms.
Nahhh, America's economy is fake. It's based on printing money to drain its own subordinates, overcharging for education and healthcare, then pretending that everyone pays themselves premium rent every day. China's economy is solid science and manufacturing. They're the same size but China's house is made of concrete and steel while America's is a house of cards.
I also don't believe China can be considered a superpower until it brings Taiwan under its control. You can't be a superpower when your no.1 adversary has troops stationed on your territory without your consent.
Yyyeeahhh, there's that. But you can also say a country can't be considered a superpower while losing in trade and tech wars so...
I would classify US as still a sole superpower, and China and Russia as regional powers, with China having a great potential to become a superpower in the future.
Sole superpower with a weaker economy and tech? I dunno. Maybe the US is a global power, based solely on the connections it established post 1945 and using those to bully small nations from afar. In terms of comprehensive power, America already admits it can't match China and it needs all the help it can get from every advanced country around the world. You can't be weaker than another country and still be the sole superpower...
 
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Serb

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IMO US still enjoys substantial militarily advantages over China, as well in terms of cultural influence. Economically, they are more or less on even terms.

I also don't believe China can be considered a superpower until it brings Taiwan under its control. You can't be a superpower when your no.1 adversary has troops stationed on your territory without your consent.

I would classify US as still a sole superpower, and China and Russia as regional powers, with China having a great potential to become a superpower in the future.

Lmao, the US supapowa can't even control their borders from cartels, drugs (often with precursor chemicals from China), guns, human trafficking, etc, and you talk about Taiwan. It is no coincidence that right-wingers talk so much about borders, they know how broken and deficient they are there.
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Cartels control many border towns, crossing, official or 'gaps', etc. They do literally whatever they want and transport whatever they want (it could be spies, terrorists, literally anything, no one even knows for sure), with Chinese criminal groups helping launder their money. Imagine this being the reverse case on the Chinese border now lol, impossible.

Second, the US soft cultural appeal is dying to the woke agenda, imperialism, genocide support, and acting arrogantly when you are weaker, and global perception is more or less equal now, in some regions China leading in others the US. You don't have to estimate this subjectively, there were many polls already done and posted. - "From China, we get a hospital, from the US we get a lecture" type shit everywhere around.

Economically and technologically only if you add the entire West combined, assuming that the US has certain influence over them, could they be comparable to China, since, for example, China has produced more electricity than G7 alone since 2020. China leads in 57 out of 64 key global technologies, and Leiden rankings put it at 8 out of 10 top universities worldwide in scientific publications, among others. The same trends with patents, industrial and manufacturing power, high-tech exports, etc. Only assuming the US has great control over vassals are they still somewhat comparable. But, increasingly even that doesn't help anymore.
 

Serb

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It's still early days and things could still go sideways, but this XHS situation demonstrates the point that soft power follows hard power and can't be cultivated independently. Build yourself up and sooner or later the soft power will come.

It’s also clear that China is more likely to build its soft power through apps and games, since they offer way more potential for scalable economic growth compared to one-off mediums like dramas or anime, etc, which other East Asian countries have traditionally focused on.
 

00CuriousObserver

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A lot of these points, like "well USA can't even control China/Russia, USA can't beat China in 1IC, USA soft power dying 'cause of woke" can be countered with "yeah, that's true, but that doesn't mean USA isn't the reigning superpower".

Anyway, I will post my question again because I think it actually has quite a bit of significance if true (and afaik it is true):

Is this the first time in history that the reigning * great power * got exposed en masse to the raising power in a media medium dominated by the latter?

I think the question is clear enough in the geopolitical context. If you disagree with how the countries are defined, we can agree to disagree. I'm not interested in further debates on whether the USA is whatever power or not. And it's somewhat off topic here anyway.
 

azn_cyniq

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It's still early days and things could still go sideways, but this XHS situation demonstrates the point that soft power follows hard power and can't be cultivated independently. Build yourself up and sooner or later the soft power will come.
I’m glad to see Xiaohongshu become popular, but as someone who’s rooting for China, I’m far more concerned about China’s economic, technological, and scientific progress.
 

Randomuser

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It's still early days and things could still go sideways, but this XHS situation demonstrates the point that soft power follows hard power and can't be cultivated independently. Build yourself up and sooner or later the soft power will come.
Focus less on trying to solely appeal to others and more on building yourself up. If you done it rightz the respect etc will follow through.

Many countries don't get this though.
 
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